yet another Junior project..NGD!!! Yay!!

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  1. capnjim

    capnjim Senior Member

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    So I was very lucky that an amazing fellow Canuck sold me this '58 Jr.
    Mostly original, repro knobs, and mojaxe tailpiece. It was painted, but the painter kept the serial number. I'm going to try to carefully remove some paint and see if there might be some original finish underneath. If not, I'll just do an oil finish.
    There just aren't any Juniors for sale in Canada and with out dollar, we can't buy from the US.
    Here's the before pics....I'm off to experiment with a heat gun and a gentle stripper.
    Cheers
     

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    bossaddict Premium Member

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    HNGD and good luck!
     
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    I'd think you'd be better off wet sanding very slowly, stopping frequently to check progress and avoid going through more than the new layer of finish. Tough call to make, the refin actually looks pretty professional, which makes me less optimistic a quality original finish would be left underneath. Good luck -- start under the pickguard, lol!
     
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    I think it actually looks pretty cool as is!
     
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    HNGD! I love projects like this. Looking forward to seeing if you recover the original number. Either way, looks like a killer guitar. Enjoy!!
     
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    When I first saw pictures, I thought the finish on it looked cool, but in person, its metallic, red, and looks like nail polish.
    I did notice that around the original serial number you can see where the original finish meets old finish. So it means, when it was painted, it was probably stripped. Oh well.
    I used stripper, but wiped it off as soon as it showed signs of peeling.
    The red paint is actually pretty resistant to it.
    But, I don't think there is any original finish left to be saved.
    Now, what do I use as a finish? I kind of want it glossy and for it to look like a guitar finish as opposed to a piece of furniture.
    Here's the back after some paint was removed.
     

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    Nice Score - All the best :cheers:
     
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    I know it's done to death, but aged TV yellow would look awesome IMO
     
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    Unfortunately...my guitar fund is gone. I really can't spend any money on it. I'm just going to leave it the way it is, and put a shellac or oil finish on it.
     
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    If you can't do it right don't do it wrong IMO.
    Just leave it and play it. Then when the time is right, restore it properly.
    Just my 2c.
     
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    Stripping the awful red paint is not "doing it wrong" I don't like solid colors or painted necks. I'm going to strip it and put a few coats of Tru-Oil....nothing wrong there.
    Plus, I like the look of the wood.
    To me, its wrong to pay 1000$ to put a fake relic finish on it
     
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    Going with tru oil because your budget is dry is wrong IMO.

    Your words not mine.

    The day that guitar ever gets its chance someone will then have to contend with the oiled finish.

    Had you bought the thing to strip and turn into an oiled finish right from the start, than that's your choice; however, you said it yourself, you're compromising.
    And no one said you needed a relic'd finish, although good luck finding one for a grand?
    But a proper aniline dye grainfiller refin wouldn't be impossible and would bring it back to its original glory.

    Just because I used the word "wrong" there's no need to get offended.

    I will continue to stand by my original comments however.
     
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    Where did I say I am compromising? I like the look of Tru-oil, its just a bonus its cheap.
    If I spend a lot of money on a pro-refin, its still a re-fin.
    Its just not worth it for me.
    Its going to be beautiful and a great player.
     
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    Here it is. The red is very deep. Its a vintage Gibson and I don't want to do any heavy sanding.
    Just one coat of tru-oil to fill....I will sand and do a few more coats tomorrow.

    The neck is the most beautiful neck I have ever seen.
     

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