Would iron Gear pickups be an upgrade from standard Epiphone pickups?

Discussion in 'Epiphone Les Pauls' started by Jackangus, Aug 30, 2017.

  1. garybaldy

    garybaldy Senior Member

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    I have some PIO caps from Jonesy but I shall have to get some new pots as well. The guts will need stripping out to check hole sizes and required pot shaft length. The guitar is Korean.
     
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    jeff_farkas Senior Member

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    I agree.. why not get a better brand? Seymour Duncan etc?
     
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    Gooner Senior Member

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  4. RayTorvalds

    RayTorvalds Senior Member

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    You forgot a bunch of European countries that make high end guitars. And I mean HIGH end. For instance, check out EytschPi42's Youtube channel and look at that German custom guitar show. Or his collection video. Come on... EU is one of the cool kidz too ;)
     
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    jeff_farkas Senior Member

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    They sound nice but to get them here in the US it wouldn't cost that much less than I could get a great set of Seymour Duncan's from Sweetwater. A set of 59's from Duncan would set me back 160 and I get free shipping and two year warranty and tech support. OH and candy.

    For me, at least, it makes not sense to get anything else but the Duncan's.
    And I plan on getting the set next year.

    Jeff
     
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    yeaaa and then there are luthiers haha I'm generally speaking about brands that you seen everyday XD
     
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  7. RayTorvalds

    RayTorvalds Senior Member

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    That is true. Good point.
    You still forgot Maybach though ;) (they are not one offs/made by order by standalone luthiers). You might not know them now. But you will, once they get their US distribition sorted.
     
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  8. Gooner

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    Yep, for you it wouldn't be worth the bother, but over in Europe you basically get a set of pickups for the price of one SD. As I said before, I'm not dissatisfied with the stock pickups in my own guitar, but if I was looking for an improvement I would definitely consider these and Toneriders.
     
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  9. jeff_farkas

    jeff_farkas Senior Member

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    I agree they do sound better than I would have thought. Next year my plan is to do an upgrade to the SD's. The stock ones are just too muddy.
     
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    Will do. But suddenly I'm thinking coil splitting and humbucker coils in parallel. If so do I want both pups to be split at the same time on the one dpdt push pull or to be able to mix one split with one full H/B?
    Likewise with parallel coils - any merit mixing one pup in parallel with the other series?
    What's the wiring schematic?
    Don't particularly fancy the whole JP switching with the OOP.
    It's suddenly becoming more and more complicated.:confused:
     
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    I have enough to think about playing guitar with a few backing vocals without all that added complication :shock::laugh2:
     
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    Maybe I've just been lucky, but I don't have any issues with my Epiphone p/u's on any of mine which have them (two of my five came with custom p/u's already in place: Gibson 57's and Seymore Duncan JB's) .

    The humbuckers on my Sheraton I would easily put up against any of my Gibson's and the P90's on my Casino and Wildkat are equally as good. In fact, of all the guitars I own, the only one who's p/u's I plane on replacing are the stock ones that came on my PRS Bernie Marsden (whom I call "Bernice"). They aren't bad, but just seem to really lack that "oomph" I had expected from a guitar (loosely) based on his Beast Les Paul. I think some Pearly Gates are in her future!
     
  13. Jackangus

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    Just fitted the Iron Gear pickups and they sound amazing.
    They sound better clean than my Gibson 57s.

    These pickups might be reasonably cheap, but they sound fantastic.
     
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    The standard Epi pup's in my LPCP sound abit muddy. For the price of these i've decided to have a go at installing a set of Tesla Sharks. Just need to wait a couple of weeks for some spare time : (

    Nice little demo here. A Chibson thru a Blackstar.



    The dirty bits start at 8.05.
     
  15. garybaldy

    garybaldy Senior Member

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    I'm told in another thread that I will have 64 combinations! I'll have to work out what they all are :eek:.
    I've bought the switched pots now so when they arrive I'll be going for it.
    ps. Looking forward to finally trying the Jonesy's PIOs.
     
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    That's not really true. I got 3 Iron Gear pickups for about $130 shipped back in March. To California, no less! That's a lot less than Duncans.
     
  17. jeff_farkas

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    Overall I would still rather get the Duncans. For the price it makes sense to get a higher quality product. Yes, it's 30 more and yes I'm only getting 2 but I love their 59's.

    And to me I would rather deal with Sweetwater than trying to deal with a company in England,, no matter how good they may be.

    J
     
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    moreles Senior Member

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    While Epi pickups are getting better and some units get enthusiastic reviews, tere are lots and lots of people who find Epis to be built very well for the money, and to play well, warranting exactly the kind of electronic fine tuning you describe. Many players end up with results that really satisfy them and which are configured around their own tonal preferences.
     
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    I've used irongear in a couple of my builds and they great! You won't be disappointed for the price. I always use CTS pots and Switchcraft jacks. If ya gonna do it,might as well change the lot.
     
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    I believe in not compromising on the electronics. Check out reverb. I recently bought a set of seymour duncan sh-1 59's for $75 in excellent condition in original plastic boxes. Add that with some new switches and pots and caps and I had around $115 in and I had a tone monster.
     
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