Worth sticking with Casino?

Discussion in 'Other Epiphones' started by impregnablecrunch, Dec 16, 2014.

  1. impregnablecrunch

    impregnablecrunch Member

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    I recently got a MiC 2014 Epi Casino as a gift, and was really impressed with it. Then about two weeks into owning it, I got a horrid rattling sound (louder than the guitar itself). I tried some fixes and brought it in, even a tech couldn't fix it. I returned it, which made me sad because outside of the stupid rattle it was a nice machine.

    Fast forward to today, I got the replacement and meh. I already have fret buzz and I did a pretty good inspection in store, and I even waited a while for the guitar to acclimate after I got home. The action feels like garbage compared to the first, and it just feels like I have lost the casino magic. I am thinking of just cutting my losses, is it worth spending more time or having someone else look at it? I want to like this guitar, but I feel like its owning a ticking time bomb. I had a nightmare beginning with my CV50, my other Chinese guitar, but that eventually sorted itself out.

    Quite depressed right now.
     
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  2. SJJMcGhee

    SJJMcGhee Senior Member

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    Shift it and get a used one later on. I hear marvellous things about the Peerless factory made ones, and if you can find a Peerless branded one they're real good too.

    Best of luck bud!
     
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    colchar Banned

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    Could you return it to the store and get another one (that you try extensively first)?

    Alternatively, maybe you could return it and get another Epi like a Sheraton or something like that.
     
  4. impregnablecrunch

    impregnablecrunch Member

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    Yeah, well both of you have good points, but there are some issues. The people selling used ones here want way too much, and often are often 1.5-2 hours away; a long way to try a guitar. I can return it again, which is what I am leaning towards. The only question is do I want to play the lottery again, and my concern is that even I get one like the first it may develop the damn rattling again.

    I thought about a Sheraton originally, but the whole thing was to get a hollowbody.
     
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    ScottMarlowe Senior Member

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    Can you get a discount from the store on getting the frets levelled and polished, or is it missing other things too (i.e. resonance etc)?
     
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    cheetah77 Senior Member

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    Try a Hagstrom Viking ll, Epiphone killers. Amazon delivers, don't like it, send it back.
     
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    Phildog Senior Member

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    Phildog Senior Member

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    Aren't they wearing humbuckers? The Casino's have P90's.
     
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  9. kevinpaul

    kevinpaul Premium Member

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    I looked for a great 335 guitar, like a Casino for a long time. I woke up would settle for good to ok. I played so many I just dream walked in and out of guitar stores. I had a few bad MIC guitars. I heard of some off breads and read reviews. No more Epiphone no more big names and stop
    avoiding China. I bought a Jay Turser, I don't work for them and really don't care if they sell another guitar, I got mine. Point being go away from the big names and look at some weird stuff. I am know to be picky by my friends and did get beat up a bit for buying my red prize Jay Turser. Now a few of my friends have come to the unknown zone. They came over with stuff I never heard of from far a way. They are good, China hears our noise and picked it up. The only one we can't get right is a 2014 Epiphone Dot, we will fix some day.
     

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  10. Phildog

    Phildog Senior Member

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    I certainly feature what you're saying about traveling "off the beaten path" for a different guitar. My first semi-hollow was an Oscar Schmidt Delta King. Not a bad guitar at all. Ok, so it had a bolt-on neck. Ok, so it wasn't made with thew same quality as other, more expensive axes. But I got it, played it, and loved it. The pickups weren't bad. And it played really well for me. I no longer have it...bills have a way of doing that to you. But now, I happened across an Ibanez AS120...yet, another under-the-radar gem.
     
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    kevinpaul Premium Member

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    I know them. I had so many names from reviews but could not find the guitars.
    I really wanted to play it first. I one I bought I walked past 20 times or more. It was hanging in a local shop for two years, I just looked up. Jason said that he was going to tell me about it some day. I am happy with it stock, just fine. I have not seen one since. Luck, same with my ESP. Lucky
     
  12. impregnablecrunch

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    Lots of good suggestions here, thanks for the help. Phildog, that $280 for the Casino is an excellent deal, and I wish I had Elitist money. The Hagstrom doesn't look bad, but yeah it lacks P90s which is kind of a downer.

    The whole thing is a lot more awkward for me because this is a gift. I already feel like a heel having to return it once. I think at this point I have nothing to lose at least setting it up properly.
     
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    Hey buddy,I certainly understand the awkwardness, but you have the pulse of the situation. How do you think the person will feel about a refund or another exchange? My wife bought me a really nice cordless drill. However, on a job site, I'd never use it because it was too heavy and cumbersome to haul around. When I addressed the situation with her, she understood perfectly. And we returned it for one that was more suitable for what I NEEDED. Is that remotely possible with you? That $280 Casino would look good in your arms man. And you won't see that kind of deal very often for an MIK.
     
  14. RTH

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    You should have kept the first one and brought your issue here to us. We would have definitely sorted it out for you. There are only so many things that can rattle on a guitar and if your tech couldnt find it, you may want to get a new tech...instead of a new guitar. Same thing with this new Casino. The fret buzz can probably be sorted out with a truss adjustment or some light fret leveling. Its a pretty common thing for an Epiphone to act like that becuase they dont pay that close attention to frets detail at the factory.
     
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  15. TheX

    TheX Voice of Reason

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    I love Casinos. I have a red one with an EE serial (Chinese). It is a wonderful guitar. I went ahead and drilled some holes in it and mounted a sand cast, US made Bigsby B7 on it. It needed a setup, but a couple hours of work and it's in the front row of guitars I play all the time.
     
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    Return it and get a Wildkat ??? I find my 'Kat to be a nice alternative to my LP.....a goodtime guitar :cool:
     
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  17. impregnablecrunch

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    I am going to try and set it up tonight, and see how that works out. It is a weird situation altogether; once I return it I would have to drive two hours upstate home to try and get the money for the CL guitar, since it was charged to their card and I have no recourse on how the money gets charged back. If I did return it and that Casino lasted that long, it would be worth that trip into the city. ;)

    Honestly, if the tech couldn't fix it, I was not in the mood to gamble trying to figure it out myself, and blow the only chance left to return it problem free. There is a tech here who has an excellent reputation, but I am pretty sure him working on it would put me at least $100 more in the hole, which just is an unacceptable extra cost to me for me to bear on some company's shoddy manufacturing. If I had owned it for a year or something, I would be a lot more dedicated in trying to fix it.

    I am pretty sure I can get this guitar setup properly tonight, I am just jaded on Casinos right now. I have heard other people have the rattling problem, and that is what I am more afraid of right now than a small buzz I can fix.
     
  18. SJJMcGhee

    SJJMcGhee Senior Member

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    Seriously man, check out a Peerless. They made Epiphones for a good few years in the late 90's early 00's if I recall correctly and they are supposedly of very good quality.

    They now make guitars under their own name, very good ones too. The Gretsch style ones are nice too.

    Check em out

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    They also do these beauties that I'd very much like to check out one day

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  19. impregnablecrunch

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    Yeah, this one rattles as well. It is not a buzz, but a rattling sound that seems to be coming from the bridge area. I am not sure what is faulty in the MiC Casino design, but it seems pretty endemic with their guitars.
     
  20. Curmudgeon

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    Woah, you said it's coming from the bridge area. Are you sure it's not the bridge itself? The tune-o-matics with the wire across the adjustment screws is well-known for rattling. Try putting a little pressure on it while you strum and see if you can locate it.
     
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