Wooden Binding?

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  1. Rick

    Rick Senior Member

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    Has anyone ever bound a neck with natural wood binding and carved away to make vintage style "nibs?"
     
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    jim w Senior Member

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    I won't say it's never been done, but I would have to think the nibs would be gone almost instantly from wear.
     
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    ARandall Senior Member

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    Wood is not that delicate. I don't see guitars that don't have binding on the body wearing any more quickly.....nor have I seen the side of unbound fretboards (like every strat or Tele) wearing away 'instantly'.
     
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    charisjapan Senior Member

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    Well, you could surely do it, but the results may not be too pretty. While I doubt all of them would wear away instantly, I bet you would lose a few pretty quickly. Wood does not have the consistency of plastic binding, having soft and hard areas, and blemishes. Considering that a nib is about 2 X 2 mm and then shaped to be narrow at the top, it would be pretty difficult to even finish all 40+ nibs without knocking the tip off one or more. Playing it might get a few more.

    IMHO.

    :cheers2:
     
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    Well dammit! That just makes me wanna try one...
     
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    Who I'm back. Back in the New York groove.

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    He's talking about the "nibs" (fret-edge-binding {FEB}). I expect they'd be gone so "instantly" that many would not even survive trying to make and dress them.


    The Gibson Les Paul All Wood edition did not get FEB, but has wood binding and inlays:
    http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/The-Les-Paul-All-Wood.aspx

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    Steve Howe's "The Les Paul" ( http://www.mylespaul.com/threads/i-bought-steve-howes-the-les-paul.399408/ ) (owned by MLP member @Trogly ) used wood in most places you'd normally find plastic. knobs, pickup covers, etc.

    The binding on the body and pickguard are wood. The binding on the neck is not.

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    i agree that it would be difficult to keep all the nibs in tact even in the building process simply because there is so little mass at the nibs, that the wood grain would break. i've done a lot of stuff with wood, but that ain't something i'd be interested in trying. please post pics if you go that route.
     
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    charisjapan Senior Member

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    Well, yeah! :yesway::yesway: And I've no doubt it could be done ... especially by you, Freddy. :)

    ... but still maintain that it would be difficult. If I were going to try it (liking challenges myself), I am pretty sure inexpensive 2mm maple stuff I've seen here would not work. Perhaps using a REALLY nice piece of clean maple, or even a couple of 1mm or three .6mm strips laminated ... so the glue could kind of "shore it up" would work better. :fingersx: This is assuming a cream-ish wood binding. If you were to use another color, Lignum Vitae might work! :p

    :cheers2:
     
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    Ebony
     
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    Do it.
    Doooooo it.
     
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    I've seen Ben Crowe from crimson guitars use wood as a binding- Elm, I think (they are keen on using less common woods). No nibs though, just binding.
     
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    Skyjerk Meatbomb Silver Supporter

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    Nibs shmibs. As long as I'm rich :)
     
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    Ickity Ackity Oop! :cool2:
     
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    I don't like 'em anyway! ;)
     
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    i too have used curly maple binding for necks, but they didn't have nibs. we shot straight clear over it and it took on a gorgeous honey color. it can be quite burdensome if you go to bind a body with curves. haven't successfully done that yet.....and may never.
     
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    I've seen plenty of acoustic guitars with wood body binding. Might be tough to get it around a Les Paul born, but I bet it could be done.
     
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    Some thin superglue would strengthen the wood. Boxwood wood probably be a suitable choice.
    cheers

    Andrew
     
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    Ive done wooden binding on necks but without nibs, flamed maple does look awesome.
    You can see from the images above ive also bound some electrics in wood too. Getting around those tight curves is a real pain, and a fair few did break. The flat-top LP i took a step further and added in some purfling.
     

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