Why no love for the Line 6?

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  1. Big Mark

    Big Mark Senior Member

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    Hi all, Just been reading through a few threads on amps and keep hearing a lot of negative comments on the Line 6 amps. This confuses me a little as I have a Spider 4 75W with express board and could not be happier with what it gives me.
    I must state, I am not a gigging axeman so this is home use only which may be a reason for my satisfaction but would be interested in any comments [​IMG]
     
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    This:

    is all that matters.
     
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    Big Mark Senior Member

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    Thanks Barber, I could not agree more. Just curious as to why people seem to be anti Line 6?
     
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    lukemacauley Mac Guitars Premium Member

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    Play a decent tube amp and you'll see.
     
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    I've played a Spider III and found it to be either muddy or harsh. The onboard modeling was both wanting and more difficult to use than a multiFX pedal. After spending three hours trying to dial in a clean sound to run my pedal through, I simply could not get a sound that was pleasing out of it. Instead of pounding my head against the Spider, I went to a Marshall MG15 simply because I could get a clean signal through it and use my pedal.

    Then I got a Handsome Devil and never used the MG again.
     
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    Hi Luke, I have played through a few over the years and they are enjoyable but for home use?? you really cant drive the tubes at domestic levels IMO. then you have the cost difference...
     
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    Very constructive. thanks for your input
     
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    Plenty of low wattage tubes out there. 1/4, 1, 2, 4, and 5 watts are plenty quiet for home use with good tube saturation. And the low-watters are significantly cheaper than the hi-watt versions.
     
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    The one my bandmate kept here, a spider 3, was harsh and on it's own and hated pedals. It sounded weak in the overall band mix, and was missing a HUGE chunk of frequency range on recordings.

    It was the kind of amp you could get a decent sound with by yourself, if you weren't too picky or attached to pedals, but it didn't play well in a band environment at all.

    He replaced it with a 50W Peavey Tube combo, and never looked back. Vast improvement.
     
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    Ah, now that is where you're wrong.

    You can use a passive attenuator, which allows you to crank your tubes (usually a very loud sound) then turn down the passive attenuator, to get the same sound at domestic levels. Amazing.

    I'm not talking about diming an 100W amp though, maybe a 15W or 30W.
     
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    thanks, will have a look at some of the sub 1W amp.
    Please dont get me wrong, tube is king, i am not disputing that, sounds like a lot of issues so far are base on the Spider 3, which I can understand.
     
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    mmm, never heard of this, thanks so much for the info!
     
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    If you like it, that's all that matters. You have to make you happy, 1st. Good for you for not being a lemming and following trends.

    I'm HUGE fan of low watt tube amps. I run a 20w, 14w, 5w & a 2w. For home use the 2 & 5 watters rule.

    I also have a Fender G-DEC modeling amp that I still enjoy playing for a variety of sounds. They all have their place.
     
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    It's really simple:

    - Ground the normal lug you would on a volume pot
    - Connect some braided wire to the other two lugs on the pot
    - Solder two jacks onto those two lugs, and they're your input and output.
    - And remember to ground your jacks!
     
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    For home practice I am sure they're great.

    But as for why they aren't loved by many people here; When you go hunting, do you bring a Rifle or a Water Pistol.:dude:
     
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    Pleez, we're not hunting anything here.


























    except cougars :naughty:
     
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    I use a Pod X3Live for my weekend work--I own great tube amps, but for that gig the Pod is perfect. Incredible tone that I'd stack up against anyone.

    BB
     
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    Oh yes, the Pod's are good. I like the big Pod floor pedal a buddy of mine has for his bass work is great. I just dont like the modeling amps.

    *edit* upon google search I think he's got the X3 or whatever their bass version is.
     
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    I think that's where the Line6 stuff is really good, when you have to cover many different styles and material. It's also nice to be able to get a similar sound to a <insert amp here> without having to go buy that amp.
     
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