Why are Epis considered so inferior? (NGD!)

Discussion in 'Other Epiphones' started by mbell75, Mar 10, 2014.

  1. Stevie 202

    Stevie 202 Senior Member

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    There are some Epi models that are better than some Gibson models and vice versa.

    No blanket statement can be made IMHO.
     
  2. houston

    houston Senior Member

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    Obviously Casinos are only for people who can't afford something better. You want to be like this ratty-looking guy?

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    Personally, I have no problem with assembly-line guitars. All I see is that the options for affordable, quality instruments are 10x better now, compared to a few decades ago.

    And I certainly have no problem with expensive, premium guitars. A fine instrument can be as much a work of art as anything, as far as I am concerned.

    What I don't get is the idea of expensive, premium guitars coming from an assembly line.
     
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  3. Brians Evil Twin

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    Your luthier friend is right about setup, but there are a few companies out there who still ship their product AFTER it's it's been perfectly set up.

    Santa Cruz, Sadowsky and Carvin come to mind, I'm sure there are many more.
     
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  4. Mexicanbreed

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    Slapshot hasn't come back? Hmmmm...
     
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  5. houston

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    Definitely plenty of builders who still bother to do a proper setup before it leaves their door. But even then, if you live in say, San Diego, it may be one thing to pick up an axe at the Carvin factory up the road and another to have a Sadowsky making its way for a week in Feb in the back of a UPS truck.
     
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    My Sadowsky came in mid December and got inadvertently refused so FedEx held it over the weekend. It's the only guitar I've ever bought that needed nothing. It's so perfect that I'm afraid to touch it and that's saying a lot because I usually take everything apart and put it back together the way I like it. It was also packed with more care than any other guitar I've ever seen.
     
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  7. cybermgk

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    With this statement, your implying that Epiphones do not have real binding, which would be a falsehood.
     
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  8. Heppe

    Heppe Senior Member

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    It is a great guitar!!!! Perfect right out of the box! Only had to tune her up and go straight into Helter Skelter!

    There is a very big difference between the IBJL and standard Casino! The pups in IBJL delivers a super nice sound! Very Happy now!!
     

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  9. kevinpaul

    kevinpaul Premium Member

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    I would take an Epiphone any day. Great products necks and bodies are better than most all. You bought your self a great guitar.
     
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  10. Scubaman

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    Corrected just because I'm pedantic :D
     
  11. cherryles

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    [​IMG]


    One is a Ferrari, the others an MR2 in a Ferrari suit, both look splendid but there's always going to be differences, i guess you get what you pay for in the end.
     
  12. Howard2k

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    No not at all. I was referring to my Epi 339 in particular. I don't believe it's a real binding. I could be wrong, I haven't looked at it THAT closely be honest. I just play it. :)
     
  13. Brians Evil Twin

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    I own a '91 MR2 since new. It costs about $400 a year to keep on the road and still runs like a top. The Ferrari costs $400 per month and a guy named Luigi who gets $400/hr to work on it frequently. Oh, and it doesn't run at all most of the time. But yes, Ferrari owners get to brag a bunch as they write those checks. And that's worth a lot. :thumb:

    What is "real binding"?
     
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  14. Howard2k

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    I don't know. Are you saying that the binding on the 339 is the same as the Gibson Les Paul?
     
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    paruwi Kraut-Rocker Super Mod Premium Member

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    It is not painted - so it is real binding :wave:
     
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    Thanks. How are they different? Or is it nothing more than nitro on top of one and poly on top of the other?
     
  17. mbell75

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    They both have laminated maple tops and 1 ply binding. The only real difference are the pickups of course and the nut on the Epi is plastic. Drop some Gibson 57s in the Epi and swap out the nut and you've basically got a Gibson ES339 for 1/4 of the price :) Thats what I did, instead I opted for a BB2 and BB3 instead of the 57s.
     
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  19. Howard2k

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    I really meant "how do the bindings differ"
    The wiring is different too isn't it?
    The frets certainly are. As is the finish.
    Switch?

    Don't get me wrong, I love my 339 and as I said I think it's great value.
     
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    Not sure, they both just say "1 ply binding" and both have maple tops. Electronics are the same AFAIK. As I said, mine sounds just like a Gibson model and it all cost about $710. If someone wants to spend an extra $2k for a bit nicer frets and minor cosmetic trims, thats their choice. Im thrilled with mine for what I paid :)
     
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