why are 1958 bursts worth so much less than 1959's?

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  1. RevWillie

    RevWillie Senior Member

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    Here's a nice pair of '58s

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  2. Malikon

    Malikon Skreeeeee-ONK! V.I.P. Member

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    Good for you, keep at it
     
  3. Mindfrigg

    Mindfrigg Senior Member

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    None of my bidness really...but you thanked him for bowing out of the thread, then baited him back in in the same post. The topic was pretty much settled already. I thought. :)



    It's not logical. :hmm:


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  4. JJ Blair

    JJ Blair Senior Member

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    Wow. The second one is a really unusual color, especially for a '58. The first one is very typical of the '58 cherry.
     
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  5. RAG7890

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    + 1, that 2nd one is awesome Bill. 1st one is cool too.

    :wow: :wow: :wow::thumb: :applause:

    Cheers, Rudi
     
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  6. RevWillie

    RevWillie Senior Member

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  7. yeti

    yeti Senior Member

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    Hi, Rudi
    Did you ever figure out if the Sydney Lawsuit guitar since we last talked about it?
     
  8. JJ Blair

    JJ Blair Senior Member

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    They aren't.
     
  9. Lousyatit

    Lousyatit Senior Member

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    What, your superiority complex spring a leak?

    I'm not responsible for his actions. As far as this thread is concerned, logic doesn't apply.
     
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  10. rykus

    rykus Senior Member

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    Why is it every thread that goes past ten pages in the vintage section these days has less information and fewer vintage enthusiasts than I seem to remember from days of old...

    You are all beautiful and unique snow flakes, you are free to exist for another day, no justification needed:)
     
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  11. Mindfrigg

    Mindfrigg Senior Member

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    Wow. 'Scuse us fer livin'. :shock:

    Did you ever think that perhaps the subject isn't able to hold anyone's interest for more than ten pages?:laugh2:

    Could be that you're outnumbered tens of thousands to one. Mebbe? Veeery few musicians can afford to even think about them. You know. The riff raff.:cool:

    This is the reaction I witness whenever I post in the 'vintage' <cough> section. Is there somebody I should get written permission from first?:hmm:
     
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  12. RAG7890

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    Hi Werner, the last I heard is that this Burst has been returned to its original owner (the person that gave it to JRG to sell) in Adelaide. Not sure if this is correct though. I still have not been able to get the Serial No. but will keep trying.

    Cheers, Rudi
     
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    Thanks Bill. :thumb:

    Love the color & the mismatched Maple Top. :wow: :)

    Have you by any chance played this one? I'd love to know more about it. :)

    Cheers, Rudi
     
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    I always thought so anyway but based on your post I'm sure it's the guitar in this pic.
    The backstory matches 100%. I remember that guitar well, a very nice Burst with documented provenance back to 1969. AND it still was for sale as of 2/13 (when this ad was in Vintage Guitar magazine). If you wonder about the price......it is a '59 after all, time to raid the piggybank:)

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  15. JJ Blair

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    "You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everyone else, and we are all a part of the same compost pile."

    BTW, most of the vintage enthusiasts who either actually own bursts or have owned them at one time seem to have gone elsewhere, for one reason or another. Frequently, when it comes to matters Burst, this place resembles a battle between the uneducated and the misinformed.

    I'd rather quietly learn something than loudly profess my ignorance, but I'm kinda silly that way.
     
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    The subject of threads about vintage guitars in the vintage section will hold interest to those that come here to read about vintage guitars.

    Mebbe musicians that cannot currently afford a vintage guitar are still interested in them. If you are not, go away. Mebbe all Burst owners were at this point (broke) sometime in their lives.

    Have you considered why YOU get the same reaction whenever you post in the 'vintage' <sneeze> section? Permission isn't needed to post here and you fully have the right to be an asshole, but this forum would be better served if you take your babbling passive aggressive bullshit down to the backstage where the riff-raff resides.
     
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  17. RAG7890

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    To be fair JJ, I don't think MLPF had an extensively visited Vintage Section. True Charlie, Richard, Michael & Tom were here but most of the other guys were always on LPF, certainly since I have been a member. Mike joined after getting the $hits with LPF...........then came here & we got that Andreja Thread happening (which was cool IMHO)..........then he got the $hits with MLPF............& then went back to LPF.

    Fortunately Bill is still around.............someone I have a lot of time for because he stays cool, no matter what is going on. :thumb:

    IMHO, we are probably too flippant here some of the time but at least there is some generally good discussion about many things & many topics............Vintage & not.

    On LPF they just don't seem to actually say that much, not that that is a bad thing. It is just different.

    I can see good & bad points on both Forums but FWIW too many people take too much of this stuff too seriously. It is a just a Forum & we should be laid back about this stuff.

    :hmm:...............sorry just really "punching in""............with my thoughts. :D :)

    Cheers, Rudi

    P.S. A Thread on Microphones would be very much appreciated. I generally know zip about these & do plan to record some stuff so the information learned would be cool IMHO.
     
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  18. RAG7890

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  19. tag2

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    Yeah, I was just repurposing his words. It came out sideways. :wave:

    I agree. The backstage has a purpose, as do all of the other sections that Alex so brilliantly created. The brilliance is in the design. Somebody coming into a section named Vintage Les Pauls, can actually read about vintage Les Pauls. But, they open a thread about '58 and '59 Bursts only to find pages upon pages of completely unrelated babble. THAT is not logical.

    See? I just repurposed again! :)
     
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  20. Mindfrigg

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    Show me where I've been an asshole. I've contributed to this thread in a very civil manner. I didn't introduce the 'derail'...in fact I only posted to balance two seemingly intractable positions. Which in my opinion were both ridiculous. I didn't agree with practically anything that sparked the 'debate' in the first place.

    So if you haven't read any of my previous posts you're simply talking out your..well..you know. I simply commented that I thought it was inappropriate to take a shot at someone after they had 'left the room'. But perhaps you think that's civil.
     
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