why are 1958 bursts worth so much less than 1959's?

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  1. rockstar232007

    rockstar232007 Senior Member

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    Me too...but, ONLY if they also happen to be ninjas.;)
     
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  2. cristi tanasescu

    cristi tanasescu Senior Member

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    the best of em all is an alnico custom or a 58 BB..

    I accept 59 BB's too :thumbs:
     
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  3. Mindfrigg

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    That studio is magnificent. As I'm sure are many other classic studios. But you can't blame homebrew guys like me for their demise. Blame the high rollers that can afford to use it, but don't.

    They've always been out of my reach. And many can't afford to gamble on a return for their investment. Hence my home studio. Since the early '70s it's been my only recourse. So I pursue that option, as do many others.
     
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    He was a master of nuance, ain't no lie.
     
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  5. Cozmik Cowboy

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    OK, now that's just titties and beer!


    Imagine me and you, I do............
     
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  6. yeti

    yeti Senior Member

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    I'm not blaming anybody. I think I said that. It's just what happens when the "price of admission" is reduced to next to nothing. Again, two sides of the same coin.
     
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    It's a shame, I agree.
     
  8. RAG7890

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    At this juncture, I'll post yet another distraction. :D

    Another one of Nobu's previous sales. :thumb:

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  9. hoss

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    Now THAT is a guitar for hoss :applause:
     
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  10. Cozmik Cowboy

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    (whimper, moan.....)
     
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  11. JJ Blair

    JJ Blair Senior Member

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    There's a quote from the Duets sessions, when the producer asked if he wanted to do a punch. Frank said, "Punching is for "f****ts."
     
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  12. RAG7890

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    JJ, while I liked the quote, but I have no freaking idea what a "punch" actually refers to in this context?

    Is this it? Frank is basically saying he'll nail it first time & doesn't need to redo parts?

    10 Tips for Nailing Your Vocals in the Studio

    "8. Be Careful When “Punching-in.” When re-recording a single line or word (called “punching-in”), sing along with the earlier line or section and then continue singing past it. This maintains smoothness of phrasing and helps the engineer pick the best punch-in point. Part of recording studio technique is maintaining a constant distance between your mouth and the mic even if you move your body and especially during punch-ins."


    Some great common sense information here, I just sent it to my 23 year old Son..................I hope he reads 5. "be well rested". When he burns the candle at both ends he sounds like $hit the following day. :laugh2:

    Cheers, Rudi
     
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    yeti Senior Member

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    Doing a punch-in with analog tape is an art and takes a skillfull engineer, as does spot erase and any other manipulation of the tape that can't be undone. So the engineer conveyed that he felt comfortable with it but to a musician like Frank it felt like an insult because he's fully capable of delivering the goods in one contiuous performance aka a single take. No studio gimmicks for Frank.
     
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  14. RAG7890

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    Thanks for the explanation Werner. :thumb: As I suspected after I read that link. :)

    Great to see a "musician" who can nail a take first go without having to use a "punch", pitch shifting software or any other freaking modern thing to make them sound like they know what they are doing.

    Music has, in some respects, denigrated in to software manipulation for many marketing wannabes with zero talent.............& I'd bet Frank would agree. :)

    Frank's diaphragm getting a workout. :thumb:

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    Cheers, Rudi
     
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    Thanks for that.

    We're waiting.
     
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    Rudi, yes. Punching in.
     
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  17. JJ Blair

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    Here's a nice '58 for you.

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  18. Bill Hicklin

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    If all the darkbusts/plumbursts are '59s, then I change my vote to '59. My favorite color Standards.
     
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  19. RAG7890

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    May as well slap another up...................the Sydney Lawsuit Burst (can't remember what I called it last time..........the '59 that went to Court from JRG): -

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    Not a burst but here are my pair of '54s...one converted (my first vintage Gibson) and one still original.

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    A 1960 burst I played last year in Nashville

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