Just a curious question here. When I started playing guitar in, say, 1977?, something like that, I only recall seeing Gibson Les Pauls for the most part when looking for a Les Paul type guitar. Around 1978, I got a Japanese (I think) Les Paul Copy from a company called Avila at a small local music shop. It was horrible, the body looked like it was made of plywood, the action was about a half inch high, etc. But, it was all I could afford at the time. I know Tokai started their Les Paul copies at the same time with the Les Paul Reborn, then the Reborn Old, then the Love Rock. All of these came out between 1977 and 1980/1981, when I was still playing (started up again in 1989 when I saw Epiphones; still couldn't afford the Gibson version). I never saw any of the Tokais for sale. I lived in the San Diego area at the time, and there were many music shops in town, including a Guitar Center (believe me, back then, too see a whole friggin wall of Les Pauls, Strats, BC Riches, etc, at GC was orgasmic for a 16-18 year old guy!). Back in the day, when these were originally sold, where would you likely find these great old Tokais?