What's up with his P90s?

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  1. Prauny

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    They look like the screws are in so much that the covers are distorted.
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    The special 'deflator-p90'
     
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  3. sc-closer

    sc-closer Senior Member

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    Tuned for a scooped sound. ;)
     
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  4. chasenblues

    chasenblues Senior Member

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    Its not a P-90 its a DeArmond Dynasonic,



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  5. Prauny

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    What's the difference? Other than visual?
     
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    chasenblues Senior Member

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    Just doing a quick look around, Both type's(P-90 and DD) are single coils,But i haven't found yet if there was a difference in the output between the two.

    After doing some looking i found this about DeArmond pickup's,

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  7. Prauny

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    So they are clearer sounding pickups than P90s? Perhaps without the P90 growl?
     
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    chasenblues Senior Member

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    Just speculating here,
    But i doubt Les Paul was looking for any growl from his pickups when put them in the guitar in the early/mid 50's.

    From my limited reading it seems that depending on the pickup it seems that the DeArmonds might have had a slightly higher output than P-90's at that time.
     
  10. EllenGtrGrl

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    I've had Gretsches with Dynasonics (including a 1954 Country Club I had to sell last year to pay for dental work :( )

    Here are the differences:

    1. Dynas have magnetic slug pole pieces (like Fender pickups), whereas P90s use bar magnets, with screw-type pole pieces. The Dyna pole pieces are held in a bracket, that has 2 spring loaded screws. The screws can be turned to provide height adjustment for each pole piece.

    2. Dynas are a bit less midrangey than P90s - to me they have a bit brighter sound. Billy Zoom of X, plays Dyna loaded Gretsch Silver Jets, if you'd like to know how they sound overdriven.

    3. If Les' Dynas were like the ones on my old '54 Country Club, they were wound a bit more than P90s of the period were (I did resistance checks on mine, and they had over 11,000 ohms of DC resistance, compared to the 8,000 ohms DC resistance that a P90 typically has.

    DeArmond Dynasonic (edit - oops! I just noticed the Melita Bridge at the top of the photo!) bridge pickup in my old 1954 Gretsch Country Club (it has a non-standard Country Club finish on it - the previous owner [who restored the guitar] refinished it in Country Gent colors)
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    Internal Construction of a Dynasonic Pickup (Gretsch's modern version - very similar to the old ones)
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  11. Malchik

    Malchik Senior Member

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    Les was always looking for the cleanest tone possible.
     
  12. Prauny

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    Thank you sir, for your very informative reply.
     
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    the right hand shot makes it look like the Neck is bent too! haha
     
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    Yeah, Gibson QC, even back then!
     
  15. chasenblues

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    More likely its the result of the screen capture of a kinescope recording of a TV program from the early/mid 50's.
     
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    Just a touch of relief in the neck
     
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    Also, note that his Les Paul only has 2 control knobs and a wacky tremolo of his own design.
     
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    Looking at the knobs one looks like a chicken knob and the other a standard, wonder what Les has going on!!

    I think Les loved a clear tone - and always wanted a bit of whammy :)

    Wonder if he felt he ever found the perfect combo - or like most of us was an infinite tinkerer
     

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