Traditional...What is your preferred year? Why?

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  1. jbear

    jbear Senior Member

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    It seems like keeping up with the changes of these guitars is like blowing over Giant Steps at 300 pm! I have 2 2012's that are just perfect for me. Actually one is a Trad Pro, but I swapped out the tuners for TP Klusons, and I don't really need all of the splitting options, so all-in-all...I prefer a straight Traditional. I'm thinking of trading for another, since I've got plenty of guitars...some never get airtime. Here's what I don't want...
    -A goofy inlay at 12.
    -A zero fret nut
    -A black or metal nut.
    -Robot f-ing tuners
    -Grovers
    -Missing p-chip.
    -100 switching options.
    -To mod/parts swap
    I think that eliminates 2014, 15, 17, and 18? Obviously, I'm looking for the vintage vibe and nothing "modern," but conversely...I'm an open-minded person.
    What do you like?
    What do you think I would like?
    Just looking for an interesting discussion here.
     
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    I'm interested to hear the variations as I'll be in the market this Fall for a Trad. I want one as close to "traditional" as possible.

    Of the options you included for your "no" list, I'm least worried about the pokerchip. I can put one on in minutes. The rest of them, though, im on board with. I don't want any of those frills.

    I think if you steer clear of the "Pro" versions, you should be ok.
     
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  3. Side Burns

    Side Burns Senior Member

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    2011 pro...... i like it.... a lot
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  4. DLRG

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    A 2016 is a good bet. No frills and a comfortable player. It ticks all the boxes (well, for me!) I also have a 2014, the Banner at the 12th doesn't bother me. It's a great sounding and great looking guitar but the thickness of the neck, is just a little beyond my comfort zone.

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    2008-2011 & 2016 are all basically the same spec-wise. 9-hole weight relief, 57 Classics, chrome hardware w/ a Nashville bridge. No push-pull pots. This is the general setup I prefer on a Trad spec-wise. I do swap out the 57s (not my thing) and I do put Faber parts on all mine (bridge iNserts, ABR-1, locking tailpiece studs) and sometimes an aluminum tailpiece if the guitar will benefit from it (not all do IME). But as a rule the above mentioned years are a great baseline for building a poor man’s Reissue. :D

    That said, regarding a specific year, I’ve had great luck with 2016s in particular. I’d have to call that my fav Trad year.
     
  6. cherrysunburst00

    cherrysunburst00 Senior Member

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    Probably a 14 or 15 for me. I'm intrigued with non-weight relieved even though weight-relieved does not bother me.

    Heck. I even like the Standard '08 chambered model
     
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    That Blue is Beautiful; Manhattan Midnight?
     
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    2011 Traditional. Works for my needs.
     
  9. DLRG

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    Yes, Manhattan Midnight. Mrs DLRG's favourite colour - so no chance of trading it!!
     
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    I love my new (to me) 2010. No frills, no push/pull pots, no zero fret nut or any of that crap. It weighs over 10 lbs. I would hate to think what it would have been without the weight relief. 12-13 lbs? That would be a boat anchor for sure.

    I love the 57 Classics. The neck pickup is the best Gibson neck pickup I've ever had, and I've had a few. Meaty and thick but clear.
     
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    He eliminated the 2017 and 2018 models because of the missing pickup selector label ring (can’t use the old term haha). Kinda sad to discount a whole guitar based on something that only costs a few dollars to add on and has absolutely nothing to do with how it sounds/plays.
     
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    IMG_1389.JPG 2012, 'cause that's what I got. Love it.
     
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  14. kekam35

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    If you’re referring to the PChip. They come stock on the 18’s. And on a side note, why is the term banned? I haven’t been on here in several years. What did I miss...lol 2B9FF3CA-0078-417F-A313-4A4CE154B0E3.jpeg
     
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    My '18 came with a chip installed and an extra in the case lol 20180428_230920.jpg
     
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    Oops I thought the 2018 spec was the same as the 2017. And I don’t know why it’s banned, I tried to post it and it said it was a banned term. If I had to guess, I’d guess that it’s probably the same reason why people don’t want to see anymore pick guard on or off posts.
     
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  17. jbear

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    Glad that this is generating a good discussion!
    The p-chip is an easy fix...I was just brainstorming...if it popped into my head...I listed it.
    I do change out PUPS generally speaking (I enjoy experiments), but sometimes...they just work out of the gate. Gibson PUPS...not my favorite, but...57/57+ in the 12 Goldtop I've got...just perfect. 490/498 in a 96 Studio...same thing...there's just something going on.
     
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    Lol

    Well, I wondered what everyone was talking about because I use the word pokerchip quite a bit. But, I just tried to make two words out of it and it says it's a banned word or phrase or something. I guess I never spelled it out as two words before.

    Anyway, if the use of it as one word is also frowned upon, I will stop using it. Mods please let me know. I didn't mean to skirt any rules...
     
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    Favorite: 2016
    Reason: it’s the only traditional I own[and won’t be the last]
    Love it

    -Chris
     
  20. northernbreed

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    IMO, the 2018 Trads are excellent. Mine is. I also like the 2012/13/16/17 Trads. Some other years too. Always on a guitar-by-guitar basis, of course.
     
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