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Discussion in 'Tonefreaks' started by diceman, Aug 4, 2008.
Thanks. Hearing #1 reminded me why I swapped out my pickups.
I look forward to the next tone test!
Most people don't reveal their ages here, but I think I'm noticing a pattern based on age and ability to hear high-frequency tones and who likes which. Tends to validate much of what I've read about the quest for tone. I'm an old fart, and voted #1.
I liked the second one the best. It had sort of a muted bass sound which i felt gave more body to the blues.
i don't think that the mic with the recording was made has enough precision... i'm sure that a lot of frequencies are cut
I didn't see the results when I voted, damn that Elitist can sure sing! To me, sounds better than all of them in that test anyway!
I don't mind saying it a hundred times... The Elitists are some amazing guitars. All I've done to it is a simple cap upgrade for $20. If you don't mind a slim taper neck and poly finish, they're the best $1000 you can spend on a Les Paul, in my opinion.
I do prefer the R8 and '69 to my Elitists for specific uses (R8 for rocking, '69 for blues), but I think that the Elitist covers both bases better than either of the other two.
Please repeat the test with Vitamin Q caps in the Epi Standard. I'm blown away by the difference they made in mine.
For me it was a tossup between 2 and 3.
The Epi Elitist Standard has Q's in it. The Epi Custom isn't getting a cap upgrade - I really don't play it enough to justify doing it at this point. I agree that the caps do make a noticeable improvement in Tone. I yanked the "Bumble bees" out of my R8 and replaced them with Vitamin Q's as well!
OK - I'll wade in here and say that #3 was the Deluxe w P-90s..
The Epi Custom is the one I meant. The non-elitist. I was surprised at how well it hung with the others even though the others 1)started off with better hardware all around 2) had their already better caps upgraded. A set of VQ's would bring the Custom to life and I'll bet it would hang in there a lot better.
3,4,2,1 Mrs AllThumbs
Picked number 3, for some reason 2 sounded a bit dull and so did 1. I guess 3 & 4 were pretty good ere. but heck! i dont even know!
so when would we get the results mate?
3 was the R8, 2 was the Deluxe w/ P90's. The recording quality did suck, and for that, I apologize!
You both have impeccable ears! I really like the P90 sound of #2, but the Elitist (4) and the R8 (3) are both amazing as well. The Elitist is a little brighter to my ears both acoustically and in person. The R8 is a little more full and bassy. The Epi clearly brings up the rear, but sounds and plays great considering the $300 that it cost me!
Thanks for listening!
I agree with you that it did hold its own with "the big boys" - and it being the only one of the 3 that doesn't have paper in oil caps. I think you're probably right, that particularly in a low quality recording such as mine, that if the Epi had Q's in it, it would hold its own with the rest.
Dare I/we say that if it had all of the guts of any of the others that it would sound equally good...? Possibly - and likely...
+1 on the Deluxe. It just seemed to have a nice, warm, gritty bite. Thats what I voted for.
Its always a treat to play that guitar. It spends most of its time in the case - I play my R8 every day and beat around with it, toss it on the couch, take it to band practice, gig it, but about once a week or every two weeks, I sit down and plug in the Deluxe, throw in a blues CD, and play. The recording didn't do it justice, but you can tell how different it sounds from the others.
If times got tough, that is the last piece of gear that I'd part with.
I voted #2.....but not sure....they all sound pretty good.....