Tokai facts, theory, photos & ID thread

Discussion in 'Other Single-Cuts' started by reborn old, Nov 15, 2011.

  1. JDB

    JDB Senior Member

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    the logo looks too white to me as do the PU I would guess an 80 with Gotoh
     
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    Hi, I just want to ask for opinions which would be a better choice between an 81 Love Rock LS-50 or a 79 LP Reborn LS-60.

    The reborn is all stock with the original hard case and appearance wise seems to be much more taken care of, the love rock on the other hand has seen replacement hardware such as bridge and tp, pickup rings, knobs as well as the electronics. The finish on the ls-50 shows its age much more as it has more nicks, dings, etc. Also as per the seller the reborn feels heavier and has a chunkier neck which i'm leaning more into.

    Pricewise, I feel both are priced ok and fair since I've already dealt with the seller before getting my first tokai from him, so i'm asking opinions more on the guitars itself. Thanks in advance. :)
     
  4. Udonitron

    Udonitron Psychedelic Stoner Rock Premium Member

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    Depends on the top figuring.
    Some LS50s, while having a 3 piece top, have some nice flaming etc and the same goes for the 2 piece topped LS60.
    Spec wise the 60 is a better choice but both are poly coated.
    Are they both vintage bursts?
     
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    The only difference specwise will be a 3 piece top on the LS50 and the "Reborn" silkscreen on the LS60. The biggest problems with old Tokais IME are inferior electronics and bridges which are prone to collapsing and tailpieces with flakey nickel plating.
     
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    I'd rather a nice Greco eg450-500 3 piece top or an early Burny RLG 50.
     
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    Matty Senior Member

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    Sacrilege. :run:
     
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    Thanks for the replies.

    Both are in solid color, ls-50 is a gold top while the ls-60 is black. I guess i'm just kind of curious about these older tokai's that i'm willing to opt for the 79 reborn.

    Greco would be nice, but its kinda hard to find one here where i'm from.
    I recently was able to finish complete my mint collection 89 Greco egc 600 and was really surprised by its sound, now i'm just completing parts that I'll use for my other Greco mint collection (the tokai made ones). Was just lucky enough to catch those two Greco mint collecion at a local japan stuffs store.
     
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    Yep, Grecs are where it's at :cool:
     
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    Both of those Tokais sound good, to be honest.

    If you are looking at resale maybe lean towards the Reborn, as the name seems to have a mystique that draws in buyers more than your average Love Rock.
     
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    This just got dropped off. Solid top w/ slightly off center 2-piece back, FEB. Original Tokai 57 neck and 80's SD Alnico II Pro bridge. I think I did ok! Seller said he bought as a special order from Key music for 100k yen, so probably an LS-100 considering that and the specs? Frets are pit city, though.

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    You did great on that one, it looks nice. Hopefully you have enough fret life to have them levelled. Hard to say why that would have a 2-piece back but since it was a Key order perhaps they mixed it up a bit on LS-80 specs to get a flametop?
     
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    Can anyone help identify this one I'm looking at? Pretty confusing with the 2 screw TRC and white ink stamp serial (partially gone to boot). Claims it's Japanese and said he installed Gibson Klusons.
     

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    Udonitron Psychedelic Stoner Rock Premium Member

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    Not Japanese, China most likely but the inlay looks too bold.
    Could be a Fakai with the BS on the back of the headstock buffed out.
     
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    Hi guys!
    I bought a wonderful 1980 Tokai LS-60 some months ago... I love it!
    It becames my first guitar, I like it more than my Gibson Standard 1995. Pickups are so sweet... much better than 490/498 of my Gibson... :cheers2:
    I would like to change mechanics, bridge and stoptail... but I'm not sure it's a good idea to modify a 37 years old guitar... :Ohno:

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    Just make sure the mods are reversible, keep the original parts and you'll be fine!
     
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    Yes... the big question is if original Tokai parts have the same measures of Gibson parts... not easy to understand...
     
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    no they dont .. MIJ is metric andgibson is imperial.
     
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    Damn... :facepalm:
    That makes things really complicate...
     
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