Thoughts Please...

Discussion in 'Gibson Les Pauls' started by 46&TWO, Dec 7, 2016.

  1. 46&TWO

    46&TWO Senior Member

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    Intelligent opinions on this one much appreciated. I have my opinions, but would like to hear others.

    Maybe someone whose electronics are not being difficult can post the pics in the thread. Otherwise, this album should be public.

    Thanks!

    http://s904.photobucket.com/user/swissautopro/library/Les Paul Temp?sort=3&page=1
     
  2. Dineley

    Dineley Senior Member

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    What sort of opinions are you after??
     
  3. kmasters68

    kmasters68 Senior Member

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    What he said.
     
  4. TheX

    TheX Voice of Reason

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    Definitely a guitar!
     
  5. Side Burns

    Side Burns Senior Member

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    I assume u want thoughts on this guitar?


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  6. 46&TWO

    46&TWO Senior Member

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    Yes and thank you.
     
  7. gnappi

    gnappi Senior Member

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    Are you looking for thoughts on its authenticity, originality? Do you own it, or are you looking to buy it?
     
  8. elephantrider

    elephantrider Senior Member

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    dry well, fellas... dry well.
     
  9. 46&TWO

    46&TWO Senior Member

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    Authenticity, originality, and any other observations. Clearly, it's missing a serial number. I do not own it, and I am not considering buying it. I was asked to provide some info on it by the owner, if possible.
     
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    jc2000 Senior Member

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    :wow::wow::wow:!!!
     
  11. Cjsinla

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    Pots look to be dated to 1978 and 1981
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  12. Cjsinla

    Cjsinla Premium Member

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    A few things don't look right; the gaps between the neck pup and the neck and pickguard. The lack of serial number and "Les Paul Model" on the headstock, and the green wires that go to the jack. We need pics of the bottom of the pickups to see if they are Shaws or not but I'm thinking this guitar is a good copy.

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  13. 46&TWO

    46&TWO Senior Member

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    Thanks for the input. You and I are seeing the same things.
     
  14. chasenblues

    chasenblues Senior Member

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    Perfectly round wiring channel route?

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    The overall shape of the Cavity route looks off to me.

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  15. Detector

    Detector Gold Supporter

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    Neck volume knob looks off to me. Not where it should be.
     
  16. kakerlak

    kakerlak Senior Member

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    Looks kind of like a veneer crack at the upper bout, yet the underside of the top (in the control cavity) looks pretty flamey, so I'm not sure what to think. Speaking of the cavity, it looks very much like early '80s Gibson to me, with the sort of flattened-out lobes on each side and that little convex/quarter-round ridge around the base of the route. Wiring looks messed with, so pot codes and wire colors might not be of much importance here. Is it possible it's been refinished? Could explain the loss of model name silkscreen and S/N ink-stamp (or some heavy-handed polishing).

    Check out the cavity shape on this 1982 Leo's reissue:
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    EDIT -- here's a clearer picture I snagged of another Leo reissue from our own mrfrett:
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    The route looks dead on to me, but I don't think this is one of those, as they'd all have that S/N pressed into the edge of the cavity shelf
     
  17. kakerlak

    kakerlak Senior Member

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    Been poking around, looking at other Leo's reissues... Check out the pickup/fretboard gap on this other Leo's reissue I found:
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    ^Also note the ramp-up/bevel at the tip of the pickguard where it mounts near the fretboard -- looks like OP's.


    I've also since found one without the stamped-in S/N in the control cavity:
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  18. Christosterone

    Christosterone Premium Member

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    What's up with the lacquer?
    It looks like a grandfather wall clock I made in 7th grade wood shop..

    -Chris
     
  19. kakerlak

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    I think it might just be dirty, though it could be a refin -- the photos look funky. I'm also wondering whether there actually is an ink-stamped serial number that just got washed out by the flash reflecting off and camera focusing on all the tiny swirl marks, fingerprints, misc. grime, etc. It's sure centered up in the photo as though somebody was trying to photograph a serial number.
     
  20. chasenblues

    chasenblues Senior Member

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    Finish crack/separation following the wood grain?

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