The Unofficial Official Anything Bacchus/Momose/Deviser Theory, Photo & ID Thread!

Discussion in 'Other Single-Cuts' started by twchua, May 27, 2011.

  1. Olds442

    Olds442 Senior Member

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    you can call me Olds, that's nicer than what most call me, that starts with "C" and rhymes with bunt. :thumb:

    one could be a fluke, or a enigma. you need a second one to confirm your suspicion that they're nearly perfect.

    but good luck finding another '12 classic at that price. :naughty:

    yours is particularly nice in my opinion, i'm a sucker for a lemony plain top. :cheers:
     
  2. Kostas.

    Kostas. Senior Member

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    What is the email you are using to contact them? I used the form Momose have on their site and they didn't reply. I'd like to ask about Bacchus & Momose.

    Congrats, they make great guitars. Cites restrictions weren't an issue in your transaction?
     
  3. nigelthebald

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    Links?

    :D
     
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    Apparently not, Kostas. I note from eBay listings by some Japanese sellers that they predict an extra two weeks for them to get certification, yet the guitar was in my hands a mere five days after I'd paid Rinkya for packaging and shipping. Would Rinkya have sorted out the certificate, do you suppose? I assume the seller wouldn't know it was going overseas.

    Another surprise was not being stung for VAT and customs duty when I collected the guitar (it was that or wait 48 hours for the scheduled delivery) from the Parcelforce depot. Maybe with staffing levels hit by sickness the manager, who fetched my package after the only other staff member on the premises asked him for me, simply forgot. Somehow I failed to remind him. :naughty:

    It's nice to get three pleasant surprises in one go - the third being just how wonderful my Classic is. I didn't doubt you lot in your praise for MIJ Bacchus when reading this thread and others prior to bidding, but to see, heft and play her is something else entirely.
     
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    An eye-wateringly rare occurrence of my being in the right place at the right time, Olds.

    But maybe lightning will strike twice :D
     
  7. nigelthebald

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    Wow! Lovely guitars, Free...but I fear I may have been spoiled by my first experience of buying MIJ LPs, and I have no children to sell :eek:

    *counts pennies, curses fall in sterling*
     
  8. Ace Warslave

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    lol no..but how does an tokai ls 50 stack up compared to bacchus,

    and momose..:)
     
  9. free713

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    LS 50 are really nice....but Bacchus Classic Series are nicer

    ....and Momose is another level
     
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    I uh... I gotta go lie down, my blood pressure is low already as it is... :shock:
     
  11. nigelthebald

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    OMFG!

    That's just greedy :drool:
     
  12. Olds442

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    LS - 50 (typical 78-84 fare)
    - 3 piece top, 2 piece back
    - poly finish.
    - pitted tail piece and bridge, likely bent bridge. if stock bridge is there, will need to be replaced.
    - likely has fret wear, will need a leveling and crown at minimum.
    - if cherry burst, she's gonna be clowny as all hell.
    - 14 headstock angle.
    - if a 84 or 85 "flame" top, she's a veneer.
    - better quality woods go to the higher level guitars.
    - authentic vintage feel, as much as poly can lend.


    Bacchus Classic Series
    - 2 piece top - 1 or 2 piece back (iirc)
    - lacquer over poly finish. typically these are thin finishes.
    - tail piece and bridge will be quality, and almost new.
    - likely no fret wear.
    - cherry burst plain tops won't offend.
    - 18 degree headstock angle
    - all tops are solid, all the time. what you see is what you have.
    - bacchus is known for the quality of woods used on classics.
    - new guitar feel. good or bad depending on your preference.

    i've had both plus a few other similar models by both mfg's. never owned a Momose, but it's on my bucket list. i hope this helps. :D

    all that said, i had a LS50 that after a new bridge and fret level was a hell of a great guitar. so it's all about your preference in the end. these days i think the classic will cost you less $$$ due to internet tokai hyperbole. (i'm looking at you matty!)
     
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    +1 Olds - very good walk through.
    ...also Bacchus Classic Series Customs have all mahogany bodies and ebony boards
     
  14. Olds442

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    thanks! it wasn't an inexpensive journey to that opinion. i tried to buy almost every model '78-80 LS up to 150. curse you joe walsh LS-100 or 110 whatever you are! :finger:

    it becomes a much tougher batter at the LS-80 level when the playing field is leveler, imo. at that point it's about "vintage feel" vs "new guitar feel" more than anything else. well, price as well as the LS80s can go for more than the typical bacchus classic. exceptions do happen and have, a few LS80s went cheap very recently.
     
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    well ain't that something, people actually work on xmass day?

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    odd year reference there. can anyone translate those?
     
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    Olds442 Senior Member

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    so christmas of 2006 and jan 17 of 2007? they're almost twins.
     
  19. J-Dizzle

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    My 2012 doesnt have an 18 degree headstock angle. Maybe 14 degrees.
     
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    Olds442 Senior Member

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    good catch! thanks J.

    did anyone here grab this BLS-95? looked like a nice guitar and went cheap due to what could be a finish crack.


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    i had a hard time passing on that one.
     

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