The Unofficial Anything Agile Al-**** Info and Photo Thread

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  1. Side Burns

    Side Burns Senior Member

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    So as far as I've serched there's no Agile info/pic thread and I figured why not start one. So here's what I've found with parts swapping I've done.

    - Switch tip thread is M3.5 x 0.6, just like the Epi's.
    - Epiphone pickup rings fit the Agile perfect.

    I know rondo sells plastics kits but knowing you can search for an Epiphone part helps you in finding an amber switch tip (& keep the oem switch), or other custom parts you may want.

    *All I need is to find a vender that makes nickle jack plates for Epi's :hmm:

    Note: My Older MIJ Burny has a M4 thread switch tip & Gibson jack plate screw pattern but I suspect most modern MIK/MIC etc have the "Epiphone Standard" parts

    Now on to my guitar...

    I was ready to pull the trigger on an Agile custom about a year ago. So I went thru the options and figured out what I wanted. 1 it had to be a neck-thru and had to have a tobaco/vintage burst finish. Then, behold.... I found exactly what I wanted in stock. It had the bones of what I wanted and just needed some tweaks.

    AL-3210 2TS

    Ebony FB
    MOP Trap inlay
    5 piece neck (maple-walnut-maple-walnut-maple)
    ~5/8" Maple Cap (& It was supposed to be a veneer!)
    Mahagony wings
    Axcess carved heel and belly
    Graph Tech bridge
    Graph Tech Tusq nut
    Grover 18-1 tuners
    Alpha pots
    Anico V Pickups
    Cream plastics

    + added
    Rondo Black plastic kit
    Epiphone Amber switch tip

    The first thing I did after opening the box & case was unscrew the ugly pick guard. I then swaped in black for the cream jack plate, control plate, switch and switch plate with the ones in the blackout kit I ordered. I left the cream rings in far a while and just played it got to know her as a base line. The pictures of the white looking plastics got washed out in the cell phone pics, but they are a nice cream.

    I then took the bridge PU cover off and after a few weeks I pulled the neck PU cover off too. The PU covers muffle the sound, once I took them off they sounded sharper and crisper.

    Eventualy I swaped the stock 0.047 uf caps for orange sprague 0.022 uf and left the modern wiring for now. I did all of this one at a time to really get to know how each change worked for me. The pickups were good, especially with the new caps. but since it's a working gigging guitar I replaced the pickups with a pair I've wanted.

    SD 59 Zebra Neck
    Bill Lawrence Wilde XL500L Shielded Zebra Bridge

    Anyway I hope the plastic epiphone parts info helps people tweak to tailor their own Agiles. I have yet to take a picture of the amber Epiphone switch tip on the Agile switch, but anyway here's picks of the my agile thru its evolution.




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  2. slapshot

    slapshot Senior Member

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    Stanley makes a damn good tape measure :thumb:
     
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  3. Side Burns

    Side Burns Senior Member

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    Those that want to do custom TRC's on their Agiles, the truss rod covers are the same style as ESP/LTD guitars from the measurements I took.
     
  4. Kungphugrip

    Kungphugrip Senior Member

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    sweet guitar!
    just wondering how the Bill Lawrence xl500L worked out(was it a big improvement over stock)
    i have been considering trying one of these
     
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    Stub E. Fingers Junior Member

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    I love the BL Wilde XL500L, it has enough output for modern hard rock & metal, but when you roll the guitar volume back it dials in a great vintage/bluesy sound. I highly recommend it if you switch between metal, rock, eyc. I run it thru a couple different dirt pedals depending on what I want to play. Very versital in my opinion. :thumb:



    That's what I'm looking for, but with the holes spaced for an epiphone. I don't want to fill in and re-drill holes. I want the right fitting part.
     
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  7. Stub E. Fingers

    Stub E. Fingers Junior Member

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    I wasn't aware there was a difference...although I am not surprised. Manufacturers need to leave specs alone and not be so proprietary so "drop in" means "drop in". Oh well...
     
  8. Side Burns

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    The top pic is of the stock Agile cap for reference.

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    This is a shot right after I soldered the new cap in.

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    What was the difference electrically? Do they measure different?
     
  10. Side Burns

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    Yea, if you read the OP or read the caps you can see the original one was a 0.047 uf cap and the new one is a 0.022 uf cap.

    Capacitors are filters, so picture it as a pre-set EQ. The smaller the value the brighter it will sound. It's your typical Gibson set up I guess you can say. The 0.022 cap gives that brightness you need for harmonics or just that top end for a good crunch. IDK, that's my opinion.

    The larger the capacitor value the darker the sound.
     
  11. Bigby73

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    Nice-looking guitar there. I've been wondering about the necks. I need a fat or fatter neck for my hands. I've played an Orville Custom with the baseball bat, and my 2011 Studio has a slim taper neck. How would you compare your Agile's neck to the usual LP necks?
    Thanks.
     
  12. Kungphugrip

    Kungphugrip Senior Member

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    an Agile standard neck lands somewhere in between a 60s slim
    and a 50s,fatter than a 60s slim,not quite as fat as a 50s

    and an Agile slim neck is even thinner than a 60s slim
    so if your looking for chunk i would go with an Agile wide neck
     
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    Choice of Neck: (6 String Only) Standard, Slim, or Wide.

    For the Standard Profile:
    - width of the neck @ nut is 1 11/16"
    - width of the neck @ 21st fret is 2 3/16".
    - thickness of the neck @ first fret is 21.5 mm
    - thickness of the neck @ 12th fret is 23.5mm.

    For the Slim Profile:
    - width of the neck @ nut is 1 11/16"
    - width of the neck @ 21st fret is 2 3/16"
    - thickness of the neck @ first fret is 17 mm
    - thickness of the neck @ 12th fret is 21 mm

    For the Wide Profile:
    - width of the neck @ nut is 1 3/4"
    - width of the neck @ 21st fret is 2 1/4"
    - thickness of the neck @ first fretis 21.5 mm
    - thickness of the neck @ 12th fret is 23.5mm
     
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    Here's the wiring diagram for reference :)

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    Edit: i just realized the diagram doesn't match my wiring lol :dunno:

    Sorry for the DP
     
  15. Stub E. Fingers

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    I just got an Agile AL 3100. I'll have to open her up and see what is in there. I wonder why Agile went with 500k pots and a 0.047 cap? Any thoughts Side Burns? I thought the common formula was high pot/low cap. How does it sound now?
     
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    not sure why they did this,i have replaced the caps in 2 of my agiles with OD 22s but i really cant say i hear anykind of improvement?
     
  17. Side Burns

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    Congrats & happy NGD. Post a pic! :)

    I suspect the reason they use the 0.047 uf was the same reasons Epiphone and I'm sure most other late model Asian Les Paul manufacturers started using them... I just don't know what that reason is. The 500k pots is "the norm" with Les Pauls.

    I love my Agile, I don't have any recordings of it tho. That Bill Lawrence L500XL IMHO in all practicality has as much output as an EMG with the guitar volume @ 10. Turn the volume to say 4-5 and the sound cools off to a nice bluesy vintage sound. That said, with the original pups w/covers off and the 0.022 caps the sound was more than good. Heck, I took it on stage like that more than a few times before swapping the pups.
     
  18. Stub E. Fingers

    Stub E. Fingers Junior Member

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    I have an '08 MII Squier Standard Strat that I bought for my kid a few years ago... Same thing, 500k pots with a 0.047 cap. However I suspect that was to compensate for less than average pups. I may switch it up with some CTS 250ks and a set of Tonerider Vintage pickups as it's otherwise a nice guitar. I can post some pics of the 3100 as well. I had been in the market for an Epi LP Standard when I found Rondomusic.com and went with the Agile. That rootbeer flame caught my eye. Now if I can become a "player" and not just an "owner".
     
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    Not sure what this thread is all about but since it's unofficial AND anything I guess it is OK to post this picture. Yes, opened the book on my Agile AL-3000 with my bare hands and a set of blunt carpenter's tools. Despite or because of my efforts, she's not a looker but sure she is a player. She's got some Rotosound Darkzones on her, 10-60, and the Fuzz is ON. I have SD Alnico II Pros on a Greco LP and I like these stock Agile alnico 2s much more. She feels so heavy on lap, I can't believe she only weighs 4,3 kilos.
     

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    My recently acquired 3200 black quilt B stock (I stole it). Bone stock as you see but Ive been just getting used to it. I love it, its my #1!
    I may try removing the p/u covers as long as the pups underneath are black. Should look good. Im giving it some time before I decide any other cosmetic changes.

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