The Peter Frampton Appreciation Thread

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  1. Midnight Blues

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    [ame= Frampton Lost Guitar - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    [ame= Frampton - Do You Feel Like We Do 2-18-12 Beacon Theater, NYC - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    [ame= Bowie - China Girl & Rebel Rebel Live @ Glass Spider Tour 87 - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame= Bowie - Time & Blue Jean Live @ Glass Spider Tour 87 - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Haven't had much time to be online lately, but I just happened to see this on Frampton's website:

    "04.21.2017
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    Universal Music Announces Humble Pie – The A&M Vinyl Boxset 1970-1975 - Released Worldwide on June 2, 2017.

    Peter says "I'm so glad that we finally have this fantastic boxset, on vinyl no less, of Humble Pie's great body of work. Jerry and I have worked together with A&M for sometime to get this released. We pay tribute to our two lost brothers, Steve and Greg and hope you enjoy this as much as we did putting it all together."

    You can purchase it here -
    https://HumblePie.lnk.to/VinylBox

    This Vinyl box set, compiled in conjunction with Jerry Shirley and Peter Frampton, pulls together all the albums the band recorded for A&M. They have been re-mastered by Kevin Reeves and appear on 180gm vinyl with replica artwork from the time, including;

    o Humble Pie (1970)
    o Rock On (1971)
    o Performance Rockin’ The Fillmore (1971) [2LP]
    o Smokin’ (1972)
    o Eat It (1973) [2LP]
    o Thunderbox (1974)
    o Street Rats (US Version) (1975)"

    Very cool!
     
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    Back in '82 a friend named Mark gave me an opportunity that I ended passing up...

    He was a guitar tech for Genesis and was currently tour manager for Peter Gabriel's (sic) world tour, where he was bringing the whole African band. Then the production company which handled both acts offered Mark the Frampton tech job during Framton's Return Tour but Gariel's tour was extended and he couldn't. Me being a repair guy etc., he asked if I wanted it. 3 months; Europe, Japan, Oz. $1000 a week plus per diem. I still smack myself over it, but once you start you need to keep bopping from tour to tour....
     
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    Cool box set! Unfortunately, it'll cost you $188 on Amazon. Ouch!
     
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    Peter added this to his set after David Bowie died. Cool cover.

     
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    What an opportunity and not too bad a salary! Certainly would've been cool, but it's undoubtedly a tough life.


    Thanks for the post fleahead and :cheers2:
     
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    Yeah, checked that out yesterday myself. Pretty steep. Fortunately, I have them all already. Of course, they're 40+ years old and likely warped. :laugh2:
     
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    That is a good cover! Wonder if he still includes it? Didn't you see him play it the last time you saw him?


    Thanks for the posts Framp and :cheers2:
     
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    Peter did play Rebel Rebel when I saw him at Mountaineer Casino in July of 2016. He did not play it when I saw his acoustic tour earlier this year. He did spend a bit of time talking about David Bowie and the influence he had on him.
     
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    I thought you had seen him play it before.

    I know he's also spoken about how grateful he is to Bowie for asking him to tour with him when PF was a bit down and out.
     
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    I was talking to Tom Holmes a month or so ago, on the phone, about buying some more sets of his pups. I already have 2 sets of his H450/H455/A2

    I was interested in his slightly overwound H456 Set. Also A2

    He also makes an A4 Set, called the H453. I believe they are in the 7.4k range.

    I also grilled him like a prosecutor, but he kindly answered every question I put to him, and even greatly elaborated. I was impressed he called me, and then spent 35+ miinutes on the phone with me.

    Besides asking about the slightly overwound A2, I asked when he went from A4, to A2, as his standard magnet.

    He told me in the late 80s he was winding pups/making guitars for Billy Gibbons, Gary Moore, Bo Diddly, Lenny Breau, Albert King, By 1992 they had convinced him to switch to A2 vs A4, though Tom did continue to make the A4 pups, but by request only, and most don't even know he makes them.

    But Tom told me that Specifically.... PETER FRAMPTON, Billy Gibbons, and Gary Moore personally helped Tom develop the pups and was the deciding factor for Tom to switch from A4-A2.

    They were vocal about the Output, and the Balance between the pickups.

    Tom told me that most of the aftermarket guitars Frampton, Gibbons, Gary Moore ( RIP ) used his pups.

    Peter Frampton uses the H450/A2/7.6k in the neck, H453/A4 in the Middle/7.4k, and the H455/A2/8.3k in the Bridge, of his aftermarket guitars. Not saying he may not use some others, but his basic aftermarket pups are Toms. Same for Gibbons.
     
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    GREAT info MC! Thanks for sharing it!!!!!

    I know Frampton specifically selected his pups for the "Phenix", so that certainly speaks to his liking of them.

    How do you like your's?


    Thanks again for the info/for the post and :cheers2:
     
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    While being a single coil guy all of my playing life, except the 1st 5 years, I played/learned on an acoustic Starting in 1966. In 71 my grandparents bought me a 4 bolt 71 Oly Wht Strat ( I still have it ) for my bday, and I got 1 of course because Hendrix played 1. Still love Jimi as #1.

    But in 2012 I decided I was going to get a really nice LP/HB type guitar, and at 1st looked at Gibsons, and also seeing people sending $7000+ guitar to Historic Makeovers for the complete treatment. Another $4000, that I would be best off finding someone that makes really nice LP type guitars.

    But before I ramble on, Ive had mine now for 3 years in a guitar, and they will never come out. Theyre everything, and more that I hoped for in a Humbucker. Clean, Clear, Articulate, Harmonically Rich. Some may think they are bright. But they are a very complex sounding pup, and wont do mud unless your amp/electronics are messed up.

    Vintage Relic made my guitar, don't make them anymore, but still do Relicing/Finishing. They used NOS BBs, and a .015 x .022 values in neck/bridge. 50s Wiring, and I also had Tom Reverse the Magnet, in the Neck pup, and love it. But both V controls need to be around 8 or less to make them out of phase. They also lose some volume, but is easily compensated for. They can sound oddly enough sound like a Clavinet, or a Telecaster. For sure in single coil territory, with their own thing going on.

    I also find I can really lower the Tone controls on the guitar, 2-3 and never get any mud, or lose highs, even at the lowest V settings. 0 still gets no mud.

    My amps are a LTD ED Metro GMP45 Head/Pulsonic G12H 4 x 12. Or 2 x 1 x 1 2 Celestion Creams.

    Blackfaced/ODS mod 69 Dual Showman or Hemp Coned JBL E120s, Altec 2 x 15 418H, or 2 x 1 x 12 Creams. 90w Alnicos. Or 1 x 12 Celestion Redback x 1 Cream, or E120. They all work great. But I wont use the Showman with the Pulsonic Celestions.

    But I had 1st started looking into Humbuckers, and came to this site, as 1 of my info sources.

    And considering Tom was very sick at the time, there was a 2 years wait, ( got them in 20 months ) that would give me plenty of time to save money, and also find someone that builds a nice guitar.

    I also supplied some of the hardware/pickups/Plastic, but not all my own parts for the build.

    I supplied Pickups, Bridge, M69 Rings, Historic Makeovers V/T knobs, Truss Rod cover, Poker Chip, Switch Tip, Mojoaxe Guard

    But I still have a set that has never been installed, also with reverse magnet, and I'm on the list for the Slightly Overwound set, the Frampton 3 pup configuration, and 1 set of the H453 x A4.

    I'm up for my order, in November. Theres an 8 month wait, last time I spoke with Toms Wife. She does all orders.
     
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    Funny, I'm the complete opposite at least in this respect; I've always been a HB and in particular, a Gibson guy. When I was younger, I couldn't stand Strats and their sound, even though I loved Hendrix. Over the years my distaste for them waned to the point that I finally bought one, after a 20+ year hiatus from playing, in '07. It's just a run-of-the-mill American Standard, but I love it. I changed the pups in it a few years after I bought it to Fender's '69 Custom pups and I really like them.

    I started on acoustic as well, but it was in the early '70s. Two albums from that era made me want to play guitar: First and foremost, Humble's "Performance Rockin' The Fillmore" and Grand Funk Railroad's first live album. If only I were old enough to have gone to Shea Stadium back then... For me, that would have been the concert to end all concerts. Not that I came from a family of means, but my first electric was my '72/'54 Limited Edition Les Paul that my parents purchased for me in '73 for $300.00 (see my Avatar). I really wanted a guitar that looked like Frampton's and this one was being sold by a local player (who was phenomenal!). I told my parents about it and they bought it. What we may have lacked in terms of money, there certainly was no parallel in terms of love. I was (as were my siblings) very fortunate in that respect.

    Thanks for the info/review of the TS pups! I think a picture of your guitar is in order and maybe some clips too?


    Thanks for the post MC and :cheers2:
     
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    Picked up "Now," "Fingerprints" and "FCA 25th Anniversary Reissue" the other day - very happy.

    Loving "Now" - terrific album....
     
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    I agree Ray, that is a great album as is "Fingerprints".

    Where did you find the FCA 25th? I never purchased a "hard-copy" of that, I just have the electronic format.


    Thanks for the post as usual Ray and :cheers2:
     
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    Yep, I agree....

    25th FCA from Amazon

    :)
     

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