The No BS Inlay Thread

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  1. pinefd

    pinefd V.I.P. Member Premium Member V.I.P. Member

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    Thanks Frank. I did see those and I would be willing to give them a try but I am looking for stock right now. Most repairs or fingerboards that I build for customers get the $30.00 inlays unless they opt for the much more expensive ones. HM's are a little too rich for a lot of people so I might keep 2 sets in stock, tops.
    Most people will spend the $30.00 and that's about as high as I'll go to keep several sets in stock.
    I sent Zamm an email this morning because he does not have any listed on ebay. It could be weeks if or before he responds.
     
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    VictorB Formerly LZF Super Mod

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    Great thread Frank. The inlays are the only thing left on my R8 that need replacing....
     
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    I've installed a set of Buzzys and a couple of sets of DJs in my Historics. I prefer the look of the DJs, although the Buzzy's would look perfect in an R4 or R6. Both are a huge improvement over the stock jizzy-swirl inlays.


    Buzzys in a 2005 Murphy

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    DJs in a 2007 CR8

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    DJs in a 2005 Murphy

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    Halfway through the dyeing process
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    pinefd V.I.P. Member Premium Member V.I.P. Member

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    ^^^ Beautiful, Dan! :applause: :applause:

    Did you use the dye that came with the inlays, or is this your own concoction?


    Frank
     
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    That was the dye that came with the inlays, mixed per the instructions. I used the dye on the DJ inlays only. The Buzzys are un-dyed.

    Frank mentioned in an earlier post that the buzzy inlays lighten up after sanding. Here's an in-process photo from when I was installing the Buzzys. The 12th and 21st inlays have had not yet been sanded. The 15th, 17th, and 19th inlays had been sanded, revealing the original un-yellowed color. Its been about three years since I installed these inlays and they have begun yellowing. The color is now about halfway between the sanded and un-sanded inlays in the photo.
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    I was under the impression that Buzz uses vintage celluloid to make his inlays.
    Recycled from old instruments and stuff. I have a set of his inlays on the MIJ LP that I bought from him and they look good.
     
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    pinefd V.I.P. Member Premium Member V.I.P. Member

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    That's true.
     
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    ...don't use the freakin' dye...looks awful...
     
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    Seriously???

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    I'm not kidding.Doesn't look right.

    I am currently naturally sunning a set which have already been radiused.

    Naturally sunned inlay vs new out of the bag inlay...


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    The dark ones are the ones you sunned correct ?
     
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    yes...they were sanded with a 12" radius block then exposed to sunlight,about 80 hrs. worth,then fitted into the inlay route.Any subsequent sanding & levelling was done on the inlay underside (flatside) prior to gluing so as not to remove any ambering.

    It's a time consumming effort but I think the end result is worth it.
     
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    I just received a shipment of six sets of the latest Zamm inlays, and to me it seems like they keep getting better with each batch! You do have to catch them when they've put up lots of sets, and be really picky to find good patterns. It is worth the time because the good sets can look really good. They are well worth the $26/set IMO.

    And BTW they've lost the white backing too...
     
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    I had thought of a couple of things to improve the inlays and wondered if anyone had ever tried them.

    1. For my first guitar builds I wanted a red finish so I took some artist oil paint (the thick kind in the tube, Wiltons or Wintons or something like that) and just rubbed it into the mahogany. I was wondering if anyone has ever tried lightly scuffing up an inlay then rubbing some yellow or tan or brown into the inlay.

    2. Has anyone ever tried using a black Sharpie on the back of an inlay to highlight the pattern?
     
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    A set of aged ZAMMS:

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    They were shrunken in the oven at 70 degree Celsius.

    The white backing was completely sanded.

    I glued them with duco cement.. a little bit mixed with brazdust.
    You can see on the corners that it melted the celluloid a bit.

    Then tinted with a solution of 50% Ethylalcohol, 50% Aceton and LMII amber dye pigment. After 10 seconds I removed the solution with a towel.

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    Frank, i´m really considering to do my self the inlay change and i know there is a lot of work to be done specially that i have never done it, but i know i can do it. I have those round inlay from 2001 that i did manage to age this weekend to loose that ugly white blueish color they have.

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  20. pinefd

    pinefd V.I.P. Member Premium Member V.I.P. Member

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    Nico, I was actually going to tackle a rounded inlay guitar myself in the next week or so. I'll take plenty of pics of the process when I do it.


    Frank
     

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