The MLP Classical Guitar Thread - Covering all finger style from 1500 - to now!

Discussion in 'Guitar Lessons' started by Cpt Matt Sparrow, Jan 20, 2014.

  1. Cpt Matt Sparrow

    Cpt Matt Sparrow Senior Member

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    We went to Yorkshire to see some friends recently and it was also the perfect opportunity to finally meet this chap Tony Johnson, who is the maker of my 1991 classical guitar of the same name. He lives where the British comedy 'Last Of The Summer Wine' was filmed in a tiny village called Holmfirth. He makes Lutes and Guitars mainly, but I was like a boy in a sweet shop trying various guitars and chin wagging about his work!

    The guitar he made, he knew the exact date it was made, the date Jonathan Leathwood bought it, the date of its first concert etc! The chap who sold it to me (my professor at Uni) regreted selling to me greatly and has mentioned a few times on facebook if he could have first refusal. Funnily enough, the chap he bought it off (Jonathan), feels the same. There is no way I would sell it!!

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    Also, I was very excited playing this Parlour guitar from 1830. A real vintage axe!!

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    I wouldn't mind taking a tour of a luthier shop myself, some day. The finished products are out of my price range, but the process of building them up from nothing is fascinating.
     
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    What's been going on lately? My teacher just started me on "Allegro" by Mauro Giuliani (Opus 48 No. 6). It's yet another one that isn't as simple as it seems.
     
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    Cpt Matt Sparrow Senior Member

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    Hi Steve

    Nice piece :cool:

    I have been away for a few months, but came back onto mlp again last week and it is great to see you and hear you are still hard at work! :D

    I really don't think there is such a thing anymore as an easy piece even. If it is easy, it becomes hard, as to make it sound interesting means extra concentration and effort.

    Mattster!
     
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    Yup, I know whats ya sayin.
    The notes as written on the staff aren't all that hard to read & get though,, it's struggling for performance & tone that takes the Nylon guitar to places
    where steel string acoustics & electrics guitars will never venture.
    Kind of addictive, isn't it.
     
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    Yes it is, and just the slightest shift of the hand changes everything.
     
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    Well, welcome back!
     
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    We had our Spring student recital recently. For my piece, I chose the Tango (the middle piece) from Pujol's "Suite del Plata No. 1".

    I had previously done the Prelude and the Milonga from the same Suite.
     
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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o8qBKnLtsA[/ame]
     
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    I've been a member of this forum for years, but this is the first I've noticed this thread. Glad I found it. I've been playing guitar since 1965, and I've been a classical player since 1972. Even though I play electrics, I still consider myself to be primarily a classical player.

    In 2004, I began doing something I've wanted to for many years -- build my own guitars. I specialize in classicals now. The guitar I play most often now is a Hauser emulation I built back in 2005. A nice guitar, I think. Well, at least I like it.

    These days I don't play as much as I'd like. I sustained an injury to my right hand in 2006, which has required that I retrain two fingers. We moved a couple of years ago, and when we did, I lost my shop, so I don't have any shop space right now. So my building has been put on hold indefinitely. I'm thinking about converting part of my garage so I can get back to it. Can't wait.

    Here's a pic of my Hauser copy:
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    Well, since I see other members are posting news of the pieces they are currently working on, I thought I'd do the same.

    I've been working on Villa Lobos's Suite Populaire Brezilienne for the past couple of months. I have the first four pieces pretty much memorized now and have just begun working on the fifth. For those of you who play the suite, I wonder, do you find the Chorinho (number 5) to be difficult? It's not that it's all the difficult, it's more a case of I just don't like it. The first four pieces in the suite are very nice, but number five leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth. It seems out of place with the rest of the suite, as well. A piece that would fit much better in the suite, methinks, is the Choros. It's lively and spirited and would fit well against the Gavotte Choro (number four). But alas, that's not the way Villa Lobos chose to group these pieces. Still, I reckon I could if I wanted. I mean, who's to stop me, and more importantly, I wonder if anyone would really care?

    Thoughts? Are you a purist when it comes to this sort of thing, or do you allow yourself some wiggle room?
     
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    I think it's time to get this thread going again. I have reached the proficiency level where I can actually perform Andrew York's "Sunday Morning Overcast", Laurindo Almeida's arrangements of "Over the Rainbow", "Lara's Theme" and "Ebb Tide", and Leo Brouwer's "Un Dia de Noviembre".

    After a "mass retirement/transfer/quit" phase at work in December/January, the hiring/transfer freeze, and all the overtime just to keep the office functioning, all I can do for the moment is to just try and stay at this level. Progressing is damn hard now, having less free time and energy.
     
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    Time for another thread bump.
    In the past few months I've had time to dig into some Fernando Sor, the Twenty Studies for guitar Segovia edition publication.
    I'm spending a few hrs a day, a few days a week & making progress, but I really had forgotten how much time it can take to be proficient at this nylon guitar
    to produce good tone & play cleanly. A few hours a day is a good start, but more time required.
    I haven't memorized any of the studies, still reading, as a guide.
    Got all the studies semi proficient except for one or 2 that I simply can't make the required LH finger stretches.
    Vid clip of one of my favs from the Twenty Studies book.
    Hopefully in the not too far distant future, I'll be able to post a clip of me performing it. (saying that with an optimistic look ahead)
     
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    I found & downloaded the sheet music to the Suite, gave it a quick sight read & play, (very slowly, I have ta say)
    I gotta agree with you on #5,, something about it had me stumped , I got a half dozen bars in, after a few restarts,
    decided it wasn't something I'd spend time & effort on.
    I just didn't care for the piece.
    I suppose if you had to learn it to pass an exam, you would,, otherwise I'd skip. Who's gonna know.
    I vote wiggle room, & lots of it.
     
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    I agree, unless it's an exam or you are a hard core pro in front of a hard core audience, some "wiggle room" is OK.
     
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    Well, now my wiseguy teacher has given me Recuerdos de la Alhambra (among others) to try. I just about have the left hand (not completely memorized but can work with the sheet music). But the right hand... Seems the more I "try", the tenser and more sloppy I get.

    Yeah, the old "try harder" from my childhood is still bullshit and "take it easy and relax" still gets the best result.
     
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    so true, I set my goals too high, 8 hrs a day when I do work on the more difficult pieces & right when I think I'm making progress I take time off to get away from it,, play some electrics ,, or acoustic, some easier pieces I can handle,just to find coming back at it is like starting over. Muscle memory ,, ha, no such thing on the nylon. Fingers either do it or they don't.
     
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    ..mine don't// :)
     

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