The Great Casino Fretjob Caper

Discussion in 'Other Epiphones' started by Brians Evil Twin, Feb 19, 2014.

  1. Comanche

    Comanche Senior Member

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    You have all kinds cool tools. Can I come over to your house and play?
     
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    Brians Evil Twin Poophoria Sōtō Zen V.I.P. Member

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    Here are three Precision Jr. kits and and an SG Special I'm working on finishing now:

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    The stingers have turned out nicely, but I've had some issues with bubbling. One more pass on each, then a light wet sanding and clear coat, a few weeks to cure and they'll be ready for hardware and electronics. Precision does a nice job, not much to do on the fretboards, and the tenons fit into the neck routs like ten men.
     
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    Fracture Senior Member

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    continually amazed by the things the luthiers do on this forum

    thanks so much for the thread Brian, probably saw the link in your
    sig a thousand times and just never got to it
     
  4. Buzzin_Cousin

    Buzzin_Cousin Senior Member

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    What happened to the pictures?
     
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    Was wondering the same thing, this also happened on the dulling thread.
    A picture is worth a thousand words :(
     
  6. Buzzin_Cousin

    Buzzin_Cousin Senior Member

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    Now, either it's a problem with my phone or the pics were fixed today. I can see them now on my desktop.
    Probably the former.

    On the record, the pics look good.
     
  7. Brians Evil Twin

    Brians Evil Twin Poophoria Sōtō Zen V.I.P. Member

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    Sorry, I hit the bandwidth limit on my free Photobucket account.

    It resets monthly, so all good now.

    If it happens again, I may have to break down and subscribe.
     
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    Brians Evil Twin Poophoria Sōtō Zen V.I.P. Member

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    I don't know why I didn't make this connection before, but my bike repair stand sure comes in handy when spraying and tinting:

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    Wow, I'm impressed by your work. Loved reading it.
     
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    Hi Brian, just wanted to pick your brains if you don't mind, for my daughter, she's been given an old Encore Bass to practice on (Not play but 'Tech') and it's in a bad way but some of the Frets are coming up and I know that some use Super Glue but would you recommend actually taking the offending ones out completely and clean the slot or just 'glue & grip' or would you do the whole lot whilst you were doing it?

    Thanks.

    Leon
     
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    Brians Evil Twin Poophoria Sōtō Zen V.I.P. Member

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    Hi Leon,

    It's hard to say exactly what to do without seeing the bass up close, but I think it would depend on whether the goal is to make the bass playable as quickly and efficiently as possible, or to learn how to do refrets.

    Since refretting is much more complicated and risky (see Freddy's awesome 5-part video series here):
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgKb2lTQKEM]Refret Tutorial Chapter 1 - YouTube[/ame]

    I'll say grip and glue.

    In one of the segments, Freddy removes a glued-in fret that was too short, so if the grip and glue method fails you can always attempt a refret as a last resort.

    I'll assume that your daughter will also want to do a fret level if/when the frets are reset, so make sure not to clamp them so hard that they're lower than the adjacent frets or you'll have to remove more metal which will mean a lot more re-crowning effort and less meat left for future leveling. You can use a fret rocker to get the height pretty close before gluing.

    Anyway, post some pics here or start a thread in the Luthier subforum, that place is a fantastic resource for novice luthiers, everyone there is extremely friendly and helpful (even Grumpy Old Greg).

    Cheers, Brian

    PS, here's the StewMac fret gluing tutorial: http://www.stewmac.com/How-To/Onlin...up/Super_glue_your_frets_for_better_tone.html
     
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    Thank you very much Brian, lots to consider, I'll get some pics sorted out first, then do as you say, either here (But don't want to OT the thread too much) or (Probably better) in the Luthier Forum.

    It's too soon for a full on refret for her me thinks as she's only just starting her journey but been restringing/cleaning guitars in our local independant as part of some work experience and the owner said she's picked it up quite quickly, so gave her the Bass to practice on. (She can only do it in the School Holidays).

    I suppose her progress will depend on her level of interest and learning but for now I think she wants to see if she can get it presentable and playable (It is in a mess) so we'll see how it goes and thanks again for the input, it's appreciated.

    Leon
     
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    Good deal Leon, eager to see the pics and her progress.

    PS, Paul Reed Smith watch out, Brian's Evil Twin is building guitars again:

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    Is that cat laughing or yawning?

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    I think it's supposed to be laughing, it came up on a google search for ROFPML.
     
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    OP, I only now just read the first post.
    Great stuff. Thanks for sharing!
     
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    You, SIR, are a rare human being - a craftsman.

    This is a great thread and I thank you for it.
     
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    I love your posts Brian. Too bad you're not in EU...well except my wife, she might be happy you're not :)
    If you do your own guitars that's even better :)
     
  20. maco

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    Brian- Super fret job, super information. Been wondering if my factory nut was cut too deep. After viewing this I know strings should be sitting about half in and half out of string slot. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I have a bone nut put in I would have to get all frets leveled first. right? This might be a stupid question.
     

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