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Discussion in 'eBay Deals' started by rockstar232007, Jul 18, 2010.
How about this beauty!!!!!
Gibson Les Paul Standard- serial # shows 2000 make
I don't like the look of this, and he has a load of similar listings. Look down the bottom about cantact details ?
Gibson Jimmy Page VOS Black Beauty Les Paul #006 | eBay
anybody who attempts to buy from that seller deserves to get scammed. Obviously not on the level.
1955 Gibson LPC
Vintage All Original 1955 Gibson Les Paul Custom | eBay
1954 Fender Strat
Vintage All Original 1954 Fender Stratocaster Sunburst | eBay
The case in that '54 auction is sitting behind me right now lol
Edit: I'm gonna cool the jets and think about this some...perhaps not as bad as I first thought upon discovering this. Basically I bought from a seller that bought used and probably cleaned them up. No big deal, but I feel that his listings were pretty deceptive.
So here's the deal. I see this auction for an ES-446 that looks pristine, and is described as "New" and "Mint".
Here's the guitar he had listed:
And here's the auction where he got the guitar. The seller that bought the guitar was o***t, some private hidden account.
Original listing that o***t bought the guitar:
And now the listing where music_garage has it for sale:
Both of these guitars are being sold as "As close to new as you can get" and "Mint". Both of these guitars look super clean, and to be honest, I would have no problem buying them if the seller was honest about what he'd done. I was pretty furious 10 minutes ago...but maybe it's not as bad as I thought....I still feel the listings are pretty deceitful.
This is why there are rules on this forum against trashing other parties in a 2 party transaction. Your entire post is absolute bullshit. You're pissed off because you paid too much for a guitar. Cry me a river. The seller obviously makes money from flipping gear. He buys at a good price, cleans them up and resells at a higher price. Welcome to the wonderful world of capitalism. If you don't like the price of the guitar then don't buy it but spare us your whining about paying too much then having buyers remorse. Nobody cares.
Both of those guitars in the original auctions said they were "mint". The original sellers were just too lazy or not smart enough to clean them up before they sold them. The person who bought them cleaned them up and resold them and you bought one. Just pay the man, you bought it. But no you would rather post on this forum about how he's scamming you. What a crock!
^ Piss-poor attitude you have there, no one ever "deserves to get scammed".
You have to be wary of someone who's total of 13 sales in ebay are under $650 value, who now has 3 lots totaling over 11 grand...
Yeah I see how it came off that way. It's honestly probably not as bad as I thought...good thing this is a place for oppinions and feedback.
Look man, a guitar that had signatures removed with Acetone is not "New Other". I actually think I could be very happy with the guitar still. Looking at picture #5 of the original listing, it looked like the finish was worn to bare wood, which is why I thought it was refinned, but it actually looks like it was the camera flash.
I have NO problem whatsoever with someone cleaning something up, but why not represent it as such? And why have an account you buy used stuff with, and a seperate one you sell it with? The original listing for the natural finish one clearly states "used" and "NOT mint" due to scratches and checking. Of course that can buff out fine especially in the right hands, but why not say "had some scratches and checking that buffed out great" rather than "as close to new as you can get". You don't see a problem with that?
Beat me to it, that's what we are here for is n't it, to help each other?
No I really don't see any problems with any of the listings. I don't think it's the seller's responsibility to give a whole history of the guitar only the shape it's in now. As long as what shows up on your door is what you expected based on the description and pictures then what do you care? If you didn't know about the earlier sale would you be as pissed off?
This bloke is still at it.
1965 FENDER STRATOCASTER - THREE COLOR SUNBURST - VG VINTAGE CON OHSC | eBay
People buy things for LESS than they sell them for. That is how business works.
I am sure your grocer has a pretty hefty markup but you aren't protesting him are you?
Please report this one as well - Electric Guitar | eBay - item no 190785134316 if link doesn't work.
And this stinker - Les Paul Custom Shop Gibson Guitar | eBay
Item no - 150983325137
This seller has this guitar listed in his description as a Braz board R9, even though it is NOT.
He even had a question posted about the serial number stating it isn't a Braz?
If he thought it is then why such a low price for a Braz then?
Trying to confuse a novice buyer me thinks?
He has also laughingly stated that Steve Mud.. er Jackson claimed it was braz in 2004?
Sent him message about the B.S, hope somebody doesn't get scammed or think they are getting a bargain!
I don't see him claiming it is a Braz R9 anywhere. (OK, 1959 Reissue, I see it now...) He says it has a fingerboard made of rosewood which came from Brazil, like some of my guitars. I believe I read they (Gibson) switched to Indian rosewood in general in 1966, but actually Brazilian still showed up intermittantly depending upon supply. Differences are mostly aesthetic, according to the experts, so you can judge for yourself if you are suitably impressed with the grain on this one.
It certainly doesn't look like a fake, but I wouldn't drop $6000AU on anything I couldn't ride around town in.
IMHO, YMMV, FWIW, etc. etc.
Handy Gibson Guitars Brazilian Rosewood Guide
Please read this guide concerning Gibson Historic reissue 2003 Guitars.
I don't think you are familiar with 2003 Braz board guitars collectability and prices
When you read the guitar's ebay description then it is plain to see that the seller is misrepresenting his guitar as one of the Varified/confirmed guitars from Gibson.
Even though he has been told it isn't and even though the serial number in too high!
"You are bidding on a mint condition 2003 Gibson '59 Flametop reissue
This is one of the most accurate Flame top copies and features highly flamed AAA carved top, Brazilian rosewood fingerboard,great '59 neck profile and certificate of authenticity.
Very difficult to find from this period and in this condition."
"I believe I read they (Gibson) switched to Indian rosewood in general in 1966, but actually Brazilian still showed up intermittantly depending upon supply. "
I don't know where you read this, however only confirmed/varified information from Gibson will satisfy collectors who are being asked to pay top dollar for Braz boards.
Hi this is my first post. Figured I would start out with a report on a fake on Ebay
Gibson Les Paul Electric Guitar | eBay