The burst killer

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  1. mbowen

    mbowen Premium Member

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    I know this will get me in a lot of trouble but what the heck it is just my opinion.I love my refin Burst it has had a hard life refinned twice had 1/4 to 1/2 inch of red paint that was so bad the binding had to be burned off and cavities really scraped to get it out --you can still see some of it.Anyway it is a cheap problem burst but i love the way it plays and sounds.An old friend came over yesterday and we played about 10 guitars through a Maestro GA2RT amp.The burst sounded amazing and was far and away the best sounding guitar we A-B'd until i brought out my 1959 first rack ES-345.I now agree with Gil and Charlie these early 345's with the huge necks and black ring are BURST KILLERS.The 345 was so HUGE and FAT we almost shit ourselves.I will not sell this guitar ever unless i am loosing my mind.The burst sounded amazing and killed all the other guitars but the 345 killed the burst .I know i am going to get heck from some for this but it was mine and my friends opinion{who has been into vintage for 40years]If you get a good one of these you will not want to let it go.Again just the opinion of two old farts but two old farts who have owned and played thousands of vintage guitars.
    What do you guys think is a burst killer that you have played or heard. Mine is a first rack ES-345 which you can get the best of for 25K or under compared to 120-350 for a burst.Please let me know what you feel are possible Burst Killers.Thanks Mike B.
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    THE BURST KILLER-IMO
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  2. Lefty Elmo

    Lefty Elmo Senior Member

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    I love les pauls, but the es 345 is the most beautiful guitar ever built






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  3. ADangerToMyself

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    I don't wanna be that guy, but reading that...paragraph gave me a headache.
    Gorgeous guitars though!
     
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  4. Oranjeaap

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    Why dont you make a vid so we can all judge :thumb:
     
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  5. ATM47

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    To me the ES 345/355 are the most versatile guitars ever built.
     
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  6. mbowen

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    Sorry it gave you a headache next time maybe i will stick to just pictures like the comics.Thanks Mike B.
     
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  7. mbowen

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    Do not have the equipment or know how to do that.SORRY Mike B
     
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    Had a couple insane ones and a couple dogs. The insanest ones are hard to beat but... korina V sometimes. You know the feathers and the thumpin lowend. I like the resonance in some of those and they really wake up with a little volume.

    Your Les Paul is just beautiful. I'll trade you some 345s and we'll all be happy.
     
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  9. upl8tr

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    I used to have a 59'345, Great guitar but I didn't and don't think it was better than an LP.

    Still have a 339, it's also a great guitar but not better than a LP.

    2 different animals. Ymmv. :thumb:
     
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  10. RAG7890

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    :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :thumb: :applause:

    Certainly not the first, nor the last time I will hear this opinion.

    BTW, who did the last refin on your Burst?

    Thanks Mike. :) :wave:

    Cheers, Rudi

    P.S. Do me a favor & start a Thread on your '56 Lester please, so we can see all the pics in one place. Thanks.
     
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    Mike I think you should sell me your burst :laugh2:

    It would definitely go to a good home, I promise to take care of it :dude:
     
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  12. mbowen

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    Sorry Rudi i know you do not agree but maybe if you go to Philly again i will bring the 345 and you can see and play it for yourself.Dan Shinn did the guitar work, it was his guitar that he had stashed for 10-11 years.Will do later on the 1956 GT.Mike B.
     
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  13. mbowen

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    Mikes and Stoj sorry guys she is not leaving. My wife would not let me spend the money to replace her.So i will keep what i have and enjoy it.Thanks again for all the kind comments on a low end 1/2 a burst as i call it.Mike B.
     
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    Did you hear that? I think that's the sound of the price of ES-345s going up! :thumb:

    On another note, I assume we are talking post varitonectomy?
     
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    Amazing guitars you have :wow::thumb:
     
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  16. mbowen

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    Do not know about that i am only talking the real early Es-345 with the huge necks and black ring Those are what i am calling a burst killer not all Es-345's sound the same just as all guitars vary.Most of the guys i know say those early first and second rack 345's in 59 are special.Yes this one had some wiring changes to it.Thanks Mike B.
     
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  17. RAG7890

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    Mike I actually do agree, based on what I have been told by many people. The ES335 & 345 are awesome if you get a good one.

    The ES345 is a great buy IMHO. Certainly one I'd entertain. :thumb:

    Cheers, Rudi
     
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  19. RAG7890

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    Agree, "slightly" overpriced.........but nice. :laugh2:

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    :cheers:
     
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  20. geddy402

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    What do they go for?
     
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