The '68 problem again!

Discussion in 'Vintage SG' started by trumpetvest, Sep 11, 2016.

  1. trumpetvest

    trumpetvest Member

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    Saw this on eBay in the UK and have just got into a rather heated email exchange with the seller about the correct age of this SG.
    The guy won't take the evidence into account and persists on marketing it as a 68 when everything points to a 70/71. It really does get on my nerves!

    The neck looks like it has been altered to remove the volute which would account for the next being a different colour!

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142087031690
     
  2. TheX

    TheX Voice of Reason

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    Not my issue, so not a single **** was given.
     
  3. trumpetvest

    trumpetvest Member

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    And you still typed a reply to tell everyone?
     
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    depuis1899 Senior Member

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    I'll honestly say this is a late 69 or 70 early by the fact that the crown looks different than earlier SG models. Also the carvings on the horns are not as deep as on early 69 and earlier.
    But I don't think the volute had been removed.
    Also what I find weird is the knobs, they should be witch hats as far as I remember...

    Sharing this with a friend of mine who's crazier on SG's than I actually am
     
  5. Kris Ford

    Kris Ford Senior Member

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    Don't you know, that some how '68 is the HOLY F"N GRAIL of SGs, (although besides slightly different body lines and trim features, are IDENTICAL from 1967-mid 1971.) so all large guard ones become a 68 when being sold? :D (but most assuredly purchased low ball as a '71..)

    Man, it is exhausting trying to correct people on these years..I have done my fair share, but it is pointless..
    And there were NO large guard SGs made in 1966!!!

    OP, I can nail down the EXACT timeframe of manufacture when I can see the pics at home.
    From the 1 pic I see, those are more like 1970 bevels...I need to see the SN#, the neck heel and the headstock face, and inlays.

    Remember, in 70, you could have no Made in USA or a Volute still, or any combination there of.
     
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    depuis1899 Senior Member

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    Agreed with Kris !

    Also something I forgot to point out.
    Neck joint is absolutely NO 1968. I have a 1968, probably the last one produced in 1968, and the neck joint is V shaped.
     
  7. Kris Ford

    Kris Ford Senior Member

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    You can hammer some of these a-holes with facts, and they are unfazed, and will still say '68.
     
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    depuis1899 Senior Member

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    The thing is, 68 is kind of as you said, seen a holy grail. But the guitar itself can be as good as a 71, just way more expensive.
    I'm happy that mine is 68 because it's my dad's year, but otherwise, I wouldn't care if it was 67, 69, 71...
     
  9. trumpetvest

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    I have managed to get a picture of the pots and they say 70 and he STILL maintains its a 68 !
    He says they could have been changed and he is going by the serial number and won't be told!
     
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    depuis1899 Senior Member

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    Give up on that guy, what would the world be without such stubborn people :)

    Pot codes help, very very very like a 70's SG.
     
  11. Kris Ford

    Kris Ford Senior Member

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    :cool:













    :D
     
  12. RandyRhoadsLesPaul

    RandyRhoadsLesPaul Senior Member

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    Hmm it's hard to read the serial number..it would be nice to find that out to advocate all the other facts supported by Kris and Depuis. But I agree with them, it it definitely not a 68.
     
  13. Curious George

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    Wonder how many of the '68 SGs advertised for sale at any given time are actually 68's... not many i am guessing.
     
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    lunchbox Senior Member

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    Then why post about it? Just go back to the fake amp modelling forum instead of wasting your time here.
     
  15. Kris Ford

    Kris Ford Senior Member

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    Nope..I'm actually shocked when they are...
     
  16. TheX

    TheX Voice of Reason

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    Oooooh, you used the F word. Why you mad bro?
     
  17. Frogfur

    Frogfur Senior Member

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    Move on
     
  18. lunchbox

    lunchbox Senior Member

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    I'm not.

    Why are you?
     
  19. SGeoff

    SGeoff Premium Member

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    I know you are but what am I..and it aint even Friday yet.
    anyhoo, I have a real 68-so hey nonny nonny:wave:
     

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