The 2017 Shaw Revival (my 82 CAR Standard, 2 Shaws and 1 Notta Shawatol)

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  1. Kris Ford

    Kris Ford Senior Member

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    Right on man, you are welcome!
     
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    DarrellV About as sharp as a bowlin' ball! Silver Supporter Premium Member

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    Went to work tonight trying out the new rings for fit and finish! :dude:

    Perfect color match (was there ever a doubt?) And the new rings are stronger made :thumb:

    It was a little tight around the neck ring and pick guard but I loosened the screws in the ring and gently pressed the guard down and re-tightened. It works! :)



    With pickups installed


    Thanks again, Kris!
     
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    DarrellV About as sharp as a bowlin' ball! Silver Supporter Premium Member

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    An Observation by a Noob for Norlin Haters

    When I first started here last year one of the first threads I visited was the Norlin Hatred topic.

    That was after I found out I actually owned one of these mysterious creatures. H3ll, I thought it was a Gibson! :facepalm:

    If any have ventured in there you know it is a spoof against people who look down their noses at this time period of Gibson history with disdain or a contempt for them, believing them to be inferior made.:rolleyes:

    I just want to add what I have found as a first time owner of a Les Paul from any time period, let alone from the supposed WORST time period.:eek2:

    I have a considerable amount of engineering and mechanical know how under my belt (along with my girth) gathered from over the years.

    Just looking at it from this standpoint there is a lot to be said of the extra lengths Gibson went to make this guitar a notch better than the rest.

    Like this...

    A simple 1/4" output jack. All makers use them, But Gibson under Norlin went above and beyond and used a shielded one in a metal can! :wtf:
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    Today's retail from Mouser - $13.79..... Each!:wow:

    I saved mine by drilling out the old jack. I want to put the new jack back into the can.
    I've cleaned it up and straightened it out since this picture was taken.

    They also used formed metal shielding throughout the CC and switch cavity. I am using it all again.

    Just seems to me if they really wanted to cut cost above all, this extra shielding and 13 dollar jack would be the first to go!

    Then the 3 piece lamineckers! :rofl:
     
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    That's a cool feature. I did notice the Faraday cage for the pots too :)
     
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    DarrellV About as sharp as a bowlin' ball! Silver Supporter Premium Member

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    Exactly! Gibson seemed to take noise reduction seriously. These instruments are made for high volume music.

    Covered humbucking pickups, shielded wiring, caged controls and switch. Even the output jack is in a metal can.

    Solid dense body with the pickups sunk into the wood...

    They seem to have gone to the limits to make these instruments as quiet as possible.
     
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    DarrellV About as sharp as a bowlin' ball! Silver Supporter Premium Member

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    Looking good!

    Hey, I even had a can if you didn't!
     
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    DarrellV About as sharp as a bowlin' ball! Silver Supporter Premium Member

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    LOL!! You are the MAN! I would be more surprised if you DIDN'T have something vintage!:eek2:

    I told my friend Bill at work here your house must be a guitar museum with all the stuff you can get your hands on and your vast knowledge....:bowdown

    The can was pressed on to the jack assembly from the factory as it turned out and I had already ordered a new gold ...
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    So as usual I 'make do' and recycled the old one!
     
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    DarrellV About as sharp as a bowlin' ball! Silver Supporter Premium Member

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    It Lives!
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    I went to work on it last night and with all the nice new parts and my handy soldering gun, we got it back together! Finally!

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    I took lots of pics along the way so if anyone else is thinking of going under the hood of their Lester, they can get an idea of what to expect.

    It is a LOT different than wiring a Strat, that I can tell you.:wow:

    Where we left off...



    I started with the Selector switch. I ordered a nice shiny new gold one! I told you @Christosterone was wearing off on me!

    Looking at the old switch as a guide I formed the terminals on the new one to match and started swapping one wire at a time from the old switch to the new one.
     
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    DarrellV About as sharp as a bowlin' ball! Silver Supporter Premium Member

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    Once that was completed it was time to solder the ground on the cavity shield. I don't know when they stopped using the metal shielding, but it was a very positive move to stop any extra buzz or noise from getting into the signal. So I chose to re-use mine.


    Threading the switch wiring through the body channel

    Till it comes out the other end in the control cavity.

    New switch installed!

    While I was at it I decided to have PLS do me up a custom poker_chip, just for fun. My choice was both Scriptural and practical.

    The neck position Shaw is just a very beautiful sounding pickup, perfect for clean work, and the hotter A5 magnet 53mm T-top clone in the bridge is smokin' hot, soooo....

    I came up with this...
     
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    Went to work on the Control Cavity next and that turned into a bit of an ordeal at the end.

    I got everything soldered up nicely and was even able to use the factory wiring codes embossed in the metal shield since I cloned the switch wiring exactly.

    Red went to 'R' and white to "W'.


    Soldered the new output jack together and fitted it into the old can.

    Dave was so generous with his lead length on the Notta Shaw, that I was able to commandeer a piece to use for the jack wire! Sweet!
     
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    Christosterone Premium Member

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    The pic with the gold parts and selector makes me happy...knowing u have it makes me happier!

    This guitar s going to be bananas...can’t wait

    Sidenote: your soldering is quite good...my solder joints look like the cop guy from terminator 2 peed everywhere

    -Chris
     
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    On the other side things wern't looking so good...

    There was nary enough thread to catch the nuts on, let alone with the new pointers! :Ohno:

    I had to remove the control plate and loosen each pot and adjust the jam nuts on them till I got enough thread to catch.... Repeat several times! :mad2:

    Got them all to almost good except the neck volume. This pot shaft fell on the thickest part of the top carve and barely stuck through.

    I was not really happy at this point with these new Bournes pots!

    I remember reading on Tone Mans site somewhere about not re-using the plate and he included a piece of wire for grounding...

    All well and good, he covered his backside properly, but I wanted to use the dang shield!!:(

    So after a brief search through my limited amount of non Luthier based tooling, I hit upon one of those world famous step drills!
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    The only problem was being able to get up to the width I needed to fit the shaft nuts without boring the shaft hole bigger in the process.

    Then I hit on an unorthodox solution. :hmm:
    I turned the bit around and chocked the point into the drill. :wow:

    This left the widest part of the bit facing forward. With a little pressure and rocking I was able to carve out some relief for the shaft nuts using the widest part of the bit only! :dude:
    The result.

    I tested it on my amp at this point to make sure everything was wired up correctly before I sealed everything back up.
    A tap of the screwdriver confirmed that all volumes and tones were working properly and the selector worked correctly right off the bat too!
     
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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::applause::applause::applause:
    Thanks for dropping in!:cheers:
     
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    :wow:
    WOW

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    -Chris
     
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    Glad you like! :cheers2:

    There will be more shots coming with the new gold covers on too...:drool:
     
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    That's a real beauty, mate! Glad to see the old girl up and running! Play the snot out of it!
    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Something about gold selector tips against Creme chips is so freaking cool..

    Absolutely love your choices on this masterpiece...

    Couldn’t be happier for one of the best guys on MLP

    -Chris
     
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