TH 59 or Std 59 Historic - Which One Should I Buy?

Discussion in 'Historics & Reissues' started by zetrex, Sep 23, 2017.

Which one should I buy?

Poll closed Sep 28, 2017.
  1. True Historic 59 VCB

    16 vote(s)
    55.2%
  2. Std Historic 59 Iced T VOS

    13 vote(s)
    44.8%
  1. zetrex

    zetrex Senior Member

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    UPDATE:
    What would you do if you have to decide between buying online a 2016 R9 Standard and a 2017 True Historic that is only 10% more expensive (30% discount)?
    That was my
    dilemma... and I didn't slept that much lately.
    I want to thank everyone who answered the poll and in particular those of you who replied with a kind and objective post.
    At the end, my heart spoke when I received the first guitar. Yes, love at first glance still exists (that's how I get married by the way).
    I'm sure many of you would have gone with the TH but

    I finally bought the Standard (NGD thread here)!

    Here is the original post #1 of this thread:


    The 2 guitars are sold online for about the same price, I can't have them in hands before ordering.

    Thanks for helping me make my choice!

    True Historic 59 VCB:
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    Std Historic 59 Iced T VOS:
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  2. FKO

    FKO Senior Member

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    Solely by looks, neither appeals to me
     
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  3. RAG7890

    RAG7890 Premium Member

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    That is a decision only you can make. ;)

    :cheers2:
     
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  4. zetrex

    zetrex Senior Member

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    I know I'm the only one that can really decide. My point is: the prices are almost the same but one is a True Historic. Is it a plus?
    I like the look of both and just don't want to play heads or tails...
     
  5. Lebond

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    No brainer for me, I would go for the True Historic. Love the VCB colour and the subtle flame, also the fretboard looks nice and dark on those pics.

    However the Standard Historic looks nice also, again I like the subtle flame.

    Ultimately its up to you and your personal taste.
     
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  6. zetrex

    zetrex Senior Member

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    Interesting, because of the figures? the colors? a general impression?
     
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    The true historic. You will get a better resale value if you have to sell down the line.
     
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  8. zetrex

    zetrex Senior Member

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    :yesway: That's a good point.
     
  9. StubbyJ

    StubbyJ Senior Member

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    TH all the way. Much better looking with a darker board and as mentioned, better resale. The board on the standard is way to light for my taste. The THs I've played feel really good under the hand.

    Do you know the weights?
     
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    I'm a fan of the of R9. I like the ice tea burst, and I think the top is a much better looking, I could care less if the plastic isn't correct on a molecular level. As far as resale, unless you have a crystal ball say'n buy this un- the jury's still out. Right now their @ the same price point for you. That said their both sweet guitars , so really which appeals to you?
     
  11. RAG7890

    RAG7890 Premium Member

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    ...............yep always buy a Guitar that has a better resale value because you know you're going to sell it. ;)

    Look in all seriousness resale value is really important if you're not going to keep it. A friend of mine here in Australia has often bypassed better Guitars because he knows he's going to flip it in a few months. It's just his bag & I understand that.

    Me, well I prefer to look for a keeper...........I've done the collecting & selling bit & it is a WOFTAM (waste of fxxxxxx time & money) but who am I to judge.

    So as far as resale is concerned then yeah the TH would be the better option although people seem to like the Iced Tea / Lemon more than the TH VCB color IMHO. BTW that Iced Tea is not what I'd call a ture Iced Tea.........more like Icead Tea & Lemon if that makes sense.

    For me, I like the TH VCB color more.

    Bummer you can't play them side by side & see which one you really like that "speaks" to you.

    Good luck.

    :cheers2:
     
  12. zetrex

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    The same for me about the Std borders, that's why i asked people her about the IT mean color in another thread. But the true color could be different...
    6.61 8.51lbs for the TH. I don't know for the standard...
     
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  13. zetrex

    zetrex Senior Member

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    Both! But I can only afford one...
     
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    There is no way on Earth that the TH is 6.61lbs...........must be 8.61lbs??
    :cheers2:
     
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    I'm also looking for a keeper, but maybe my son won't want it for legacy and will prefer to sale it. So...
    In a perfect world the best would be to hold them both side by side and play them (I'm a player not a collector). In an even more perfect world, I would buy them both if they feel good!
     
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    8.51lbs (sorry I had to convert from kg and did a mistake) 3.86kg
     
  17. RAG7890

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    About a perfect weight IMHO. I don't like them too heavy or too light.

    This fascination with light Les Pauls is pretty stupid IMHO. If people want light get a Chambered Reissue.

    Frankly I wouldn't worry about resale for your Son.............that is many years away, I hope, unless you are 92 & have one foot in the grave. ;)

    I know my Son won't be selling my keepers. He'd be too emotionally attached to them............like I hope your Son will be in the many years to come. :)

    Not being able to play them is a crap shoot unfortunately. There are good ones & not so good ones. We've all been there.

    I have bought a few Guitars that I was told were great. :squint::rofl:

    Lets just say that the person who told me they were great either is a BS artist or only plays Piano Accordian. :rofl:

    A few friends have gone through a number of TH's and not all were good but some were great. Same with any model from any year.

    :cheers2:
     
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    These are the kind of geetars you NEED to "test drive" before buying, imho.
     
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    zetrex Senior Member

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    As I said I'm a player and not a collector nor an investor. My son is 2yo and he plays the ukulele like a lap steel!;)
    I'm really looking for something new compared to my other LPs, or let's say different. I have been playing for 24 years now and it's time for me to grab a serious guitar.
     
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    zetrex Senior Member

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    Of course! But I couldn't find any near my place for a reasonable price and I live in a big city (Paris, France!)...
    I could only try an M2M: very good but too expensive for me!
    Anyway, I can send back the 2 guitars for free if I'm not happy with them. The point is I can't manage to have them both at the same time...
    The price for the TH is really good (30% off). Without this offer, I would have gone for the Std without any doubt (hopefully keeping her if she was a killer).
     

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