You had your eye on what Fender was doing? Ted McCarty: Yes, we realized that he was gaining popularity in the West. He didn’t get anywhere in New York or this part of the country—it was strictly in the West. I watched him and watched him, and I said, "We’ve got to get into that business. https://reverb.com/news/former-gibs...oods-and-the-problems-of-top-heavy-management Interesting read.