Stephens Design Peter Green-Vintage LAB-PG Set now available...

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  1. Nigel Tufnel's tech

    Nigel Tufnel's tech Senior Member

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    I think he fell out of love with it over time, he much prepared Eric's from his accounts, preferring the thinner neck over his tree trunk, Also getting rid of it was also a in a period in his life that i dont think he wants to look back on and is better left in the past. as he said "that guitar broke his heart"
     
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    I think that's quite true, literally.

    He did much prefer the thinner neck of Eric's Les Paul, I've read that a few times. But there just weren't too many LP's to choose from back then.

    I've always wondered why 50's Goldtops never took off in the late 60's. Was it because of the embargo that no mid-50's Les Pauls made it to England?

    Back then,he only guys to rock the GT's that I can think of, were Bloomfield, (pre-Erlewine Burst,) Duane and Dickey. I guess "Lucy" was a refinsihed Goldtop, but Eric bought that in the US, (on consignment from Rick Derringer.)
     
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    You passed up a Barney Kessel for $900? Ouch...
     
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    Tell me about it. Don't get me wrong, it was in sore need of a refret, and wasn't in very good shape. But it still had a straight nice neck, good action and sounded incredible. The pickups were fat and funky, like a P-90's delinquent younger brother. They squawked like crazy, and had a really cool mix of dynamics and compression.

    I didn't really have the extra money, though. So even though I could have bought it, I decided not to. really dumb decision, especially since I could have done all the work myself... :slap:


    I actually saw some company, (Eastern?) is making what looks like a Barney K. copy. I wonder if they're any good?
     
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    OK, I forgive you :shock: Eastwood Guitars I think it is. Nah, they are just Korean sorta look alikes, with faked pickups, nothing like what the real stuff is. they are cool but all those Harmony/Eastwood pickups especially are complete fakes made to look like the real thing. The real pickups in those guitars are too expensive to make by today's standards, alot of tooling etc. Kind of sad....
     
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    Forgot to mention, the Harmony's have P13 look alike pickups that are actually just P90's, but I make an authentic reissue of P13's and can build them into the Harmony covers, I keep hoping someone will have me do that, but they haven't found me I guess or are fooled, having never played a real P13. Real P13s are pretty different than P90s. It was a fascinating project back engineering P13's, there were about 4 distinctly different designs, that eventually evolved in the much cheaper to produce P90 design. The jump blues guys really like P3's in archtops....
     
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    Oh, that's a shame. I just saw a picture in a magazine awhile back and got excited. Without the real pickups, it's not a real Barney K...
    I looked at Eastwood's website, and what they're doing is really cool. But the guitars are all based on the basic Korean templates: I don't think they're intended to sound or play like the originals, which is what made them so special.

    Count me in among the P13 fans. Those are terrific sounding pickups: very cool pickups. If I could put those in a 330/Casino style guitar, I'd really be in business for the blues! Or a P13 neck, P-90 bridge...
    It's a shame, back when I was first learning to play, everyone still had those old Harmony's in their attics, some of them in great shape.

    There are a bunch of really cool DeArmond designs that I'd love to see reissued as well: not just the famous Dynasonic. The Rhythm Chief is still one of the best swing/blues pickups of all time.

    Interesting fact, (Only true DeArmond fans know this one!): Harry DeArmond came up with a complete 2-hand tapping style on guitar, much like Stanley Jordan, back in the 40's. It started as a way to demonstrate how sensitive his pickups were, but became its own style. His protege, Jimmie Webster, took it even further, and wrote a tapping method book in the 50's.
     
  8. Nigel Tufnel's tech

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    I just think they were rare over hear, and possibly the fashion dictated you must have a burst, maybe the Brits were scared off with the knowledge that arsenic that was used in the gold paint , you Yanks are much braver :D
     
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    I've changed to an old Duncan 59 replica in neck position, but still looking for a better (brighter) alt. There's a somewhat muffled (due to the Nobel OD I used) sample at:"www.youtube.com/watch?v=trl3ixKP-qM "

    /z
     
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    Well check my YouTube video, my Peter Green set is as bright as the real ones are. I'm having to resvisit the recipe for the set, I did some complicated shit with the metal that worked incredibly well but added many hours to making a set, screw that, need to simplify. BB's and Duncans are miles away from true PAFs, you just don't know until you play the real thing....

    If you Casino has dogear P90's watch my P13 video on YouTube, yes I can make them for those. I recently added a minor improvement to the P13 set, now they are just amazing, I find myself playing my Epiphone ES295 cheapo reissue alot with them in it. I have an out of phase switch in there too, so alot of cool tones from those pickups, they get amazing tones when backing off the volume pot too. BUT, you absolutely MUST gut the entire wiring harness in those things as they are just horrible, everything must go, completely start over, the ES295 in the video has been totally redone and has NOS bumblebee caps in it as well. Epiphones use the most low grade garbage in their wiring harnesses, get rid of that stuff :mad2:
     
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    yeap.... Dave would you tell us about the VLII project??? :naughty:
     
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    some pics of my bridge VL:

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    I am just sitting here gobsmacked.
    Mate that was awesome.
    I did notice that he was using a pick, but finger picking as well.
    Is that "Travis picking"?
     

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