I do not like bashing a competitor and usually don't. There is no way in hell you can tell me that the parts they use are close to what most if not all boutique guys use. Shit parts. I could use poly wire 50 cent bobbins and the cheapest parts available get them wound in china and sell them that cheap but I don't. The product description is my biggest issue with them. But for what they are they are a good deal. Just remember you often get what you pay for.