Slash AFD 170 Derrig DIY refinish

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  1. Gibsonclassic2001

    Gibsonclassic2001 Senior Member

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    Guess this deserve its own thread.

    A few things that bothers me about Gibsons version is not the small things like 192p axial poly capacitors vs polypropelene.
    Or the 5 vintage mushrom bushings with one 90s vs 6 gotoh.
    Its the color and lack of burst. Why not try harder?

    Sanding sealer on
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    Test shot pre fading june 2014 no wet sanding

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    Test shot post fading aug 2014

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    @seymour duncan a couple of years ago.
    Real Derrig almost pin stripe rev chevron in this angle
    Not just thick flames as most believe
    And lots of action both horizontal and lateral.

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    Here are 2 pictures.
    Both are off in color.
    But in late 86 its vibrant and burst is there. (Robert Johns book contain the original in correct color.
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    In 88 it had faded / washed out a bit.
    And in 2014 the burst is still visable.


    OCD-style replica made of a real afd vos.

    Sneak peak already posted of the body laquer color matching.
    Headstock with real checking.
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    Full 86 spec.
    Sprauge 192p 5% 0.022uf 600v axial capacitors

    Small example of control cavity vs the real deal when Andy Brauer did some work on it.

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    Gotoh bridge and correct material for wheels and screws
    1985-1992 gotoh NOTE logo and screw differences


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    1960-1970 double ring tuners
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    1960-1970 reflectors
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    Dimarzio centralab 500k pots
    1986 vintage Seymour duncan Aphbj and Aphnj
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    More info here
    Tribute to MJ wound Alnico II pro from 1986 to 2013
    5 vintage 1960s push in bushings one modern for B-string
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    1976 switch ring
    Vintage nut
    70-80s jack plate
    One m69 and one metric asian ring.
     
  2. Robotechnology

    Robotechnology V.I.P. Member

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    Wow... Thanks for sharing and kudos to you for your attention to detail!
     
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  3. coldengray

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    Damn - I like it.
     
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  4. Fiftywattmafia

    Fiftywattmafia Senior Member

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    I respect your attention to detail. Very cool. Do something....do it right.
     
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  5. LowThudd

    LowThudd Senior Member

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    Awesome!
     
  6. JimmyAce2006

    JimmyAce2006 V.I.P. Member

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    So when you say " OCD-style replica made of a real afd vos", you mean you took your AFD 170 and re-did it? You are more brave than me!!! LOL


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  7. Gibsonclassic2001

    Gibsonclassic2001 Senior Member

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    Yes, Its gone ;)
    Started of with correct hardware.
    But the color bothered me to much.

    Your AFD thread show how weird the color is.
    From pee yellow to brown sinamon.

    Id say it should be closer to spoonful burst then to that they did .

    I havent heard anything about the R&D behind the AFD project.
    I asked Gibson a couple of questions but I got no reply.

    Wonder how much
     
  8. RAG7890

    RAG7890 Premium Member

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    + 1, what Mark said. :thumb: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

    Stellar! :)

    Cheers, Rudi
     
  9. hidetox

    hidetox Senior Member

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    Simply.....

    Amazing!!!! Good job!
     
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    Cookiee Senior Member

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    Great job!
     
  11. sunking420

    sunking420 Senior Member

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    Damn nice work!!!!!!
     
  12. cristi tanasescu

    cristi tanasescu Senior Member

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    wow, you're really slashing that guitar! Not a slash fan by any means , but it's a very nice project!
     
  13. Gibsonclassic2001

    Gibsonclassic2001 Senior Member

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    Mid aug 2014
    Fading done!
    Time for checking and aging

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    Real checking!

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  14. FennRx

    FennRx Senior Member

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    No worse than the guy who sent his aged joe perry to historic makeovers. Lolz
     
  15. Gibsonclassic2001

    Gibsonclassic2001 Senior Member

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    Lateral grain all over the top.
    Not visable with factory paint BTW.


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  16. DADGAD

    DADGAD Senior Member

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    I love the top. it has that uncanny slight pinstripe reverse chevron thing gojng on. Amazing find on that top. If you want it done right you do it yourself. Is it likely the red stain on the Corsa's will be impossible to sand to change to an AFD color?
     
  17. Gibsonclassic2001

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    No problem . Sanding and chlorine should take care of that.
    Btw the vos afd had some dark dye to boost the flames.
    Its to much. Ive tried it on this build.
    I didnt like for afd.

    2011-2012 build

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  18. buckwild

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    Your attention to detail is fascinating
     
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  19. Gibsonclassic2001

    Gibsonclassic2001 Senior Member

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    More checking

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  20. Gibsonclassic2001

    Gibsonclassic2001 Senior Member

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    Switch plates.
    Original switchplate got that incorrect R.


    Here is a 90s classic left vs USA (the one from afd vos ) and a early 70s the one Derrig used . [​IMG]
     
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