Sideways trem on SG

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  1. irocdave12

    irocdave12 Senior Member

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    Are these things really as bad as people claim and impossible to keep in tune reliably? Looking at a brand new leftover SG 3 pup with the trem system. Will I regret buying it vs a stop tail? Don't know if they improved the design since the early 60's to work better or not
     
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    irocdave12 Senior Member

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    Bueller? Bueller?
     
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    Leña_Costoso Senior Member

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    Once considered the Holy Grail of SG guitars.... Different, not bad. You still need a roller bridge for best results.
     
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    Cjsinla Senior Member

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    It won’t do dive bombs. It’s better for subtle vibrato. But SG’s are so thin you can get almost the same effect by shaking/wiggling the neck. I have one on a recent Gibson USA SG/LP reissue. I don’t really use the bar, I just think it looks cool as hell.

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    Here’s what it looks like under the chrome cover.
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  5. Blue Blood

    Blue Blood Senior Member

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    Take the springs out, go to the hardware store & buy sleeves/collars, tighten it down so the mechanism is locked up tight, & it will be fine.
    As a vibrola, beautiful asthetically but absolute garbage design....been there.
     
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    No need to even remove the springs. Just tighten the adjustment screws.

    They look cool but just as bad as the original ones.
     
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    moreles Senior Member

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    I have the stoptail '61 Les Paul SG Custom reissue ('87) and love it. I see that trem as a hunk of junk, and because I have that view, even the snugged down, out of service version is a drag in my eyes. I just don't want a hunk of hardware bolted to my guitar. That being said, these 3 PU SGs are fantastic (and can be wired to be way more versatile than they are stock) so I would ultimately go for it regardless of te abominable trem.)
     
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    RicOkc Senior Member

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    Not much different than people who "hard tail" their Strat's.
     
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    kakerlak Senior Member

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    Like most any trem, just give it a good look-over to see how it moves and you can come up with a way to lock it down, lol. Hell, I've even cut off a length of copper pipe before to block a Bigsby (by replacing the spring).
     
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    One thing about that "hunk of hardware", no neck dive.
     
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