side by side comparison Chibson vs Gibson

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  1. stealthelephant

    stealthelephant Senior Member

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    found this.... really interesting

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nu0EiYEOa8]Chibson Vs Gibson: The Truth About China Counterfeits - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Nilitara Senior Member

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    Thanks for posting that, what an eye opener! Can't help feeling sorry for anyone suckered into buying one of these! What trash. On the flip side I'm not going to slate Chinese workmanship, I've an Epi Joe Bonamassa & I love it, it plays great, sounds great...for the money I paid the finish & level of quality is IMO top drawer.
     
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    ejendres Senior Member

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    Interesting video. However a lot of the points he makes against it don't make a whole lot of sense. Regarding the tuners, the chinese copy has vintage style Kluson type tuners. My Gibson came with the exact same type of tuner, the SigT coming with grovers is an exception not the rule. Yes the top isn't a solid hunk of flame maple, but it was a solid hunk of maple with a veneer so tonally it'd be fine.

    Yes the build quality isn't, but chances are these are made in the same factories that makes some of the beloved Chinese guitars.
     
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    stringbender11 Senior Member

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    Honestly would anyone expect the copy to really be anything even close to the Gibson? People that believe that ordering a guitar like that will get them a Gibby cheaply just have no clue whatsoever. Or much self worth, imo.
     
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    rjshare Senior Member

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    I mean this genuinely, not as some kind of troll comment, but it would be interesting to see a similar appraisal of an equivalent epi.
     
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  6. stringbender11

    stringbender11 Senior Member

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    I would expect an Epi to fair much better. The chibson copies are clearly knocked out in large numbers very cheaply, which i guess some peope would argue Epis are as well, but i think Gibson/Epiphone have pretty high QC standards on their guitars.
    The only goal it seems like for the chibson makers is making something as cheaply as possible material-wise and workmanship-wise with no QC whatsoever.

    My own stock Epi Standard for instance has none of the issues pointed out on the chibson in that video. It doesnt have a Plek'd nut/fretboard but has pretty clean frets nonetheless. It does have the cheaper wiring of course but the rest of the guitar is pretty well made - tight fittings, low action, well cut nut and so on.

    The thing is a chibson probably costs as much as an Epi to buy, so buying one seems pointless to me unless the buyer is such a poser they simply must be seen with a 'Gibson' of some type. If you really want a Gibson - which i can totally understand - save up and buy one.
     
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    rjshare Senior Member

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    absolutely i would i expect the epi to fair beter too, but i believe some of them are also veneered for example. like i said, its not a troll comment nor is it a veiled attempt at epi bashing (i own a couple myself) - just genuine curiosity as you dont tend to see epis disassembled and examined in the same way you do gibsons.

    agree also about the reasons someone might buy one. no justifiction for ever knowingly buying a fake.
     
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    Gmal Senior Member

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    Ok. Lets think about it for a second....

    What would a genuine Gibson with a top like that cost new? At least 2000 bucks is my best guess.

    And someone think They`re gonna get it for a quarter of That from a website in China:shock::shock::shock:?

    You gotta be fvcking kidding me:applause::applause::applause:
    Surley no one is THAT stupid:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
     
  9. truckermde

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    Everyone knows the Chibsons are crappy and unethical, like all illegal counterfeit products, but that guy is an ass. Most of his points were moot, in the first 5 min I bothered to watch, anyway.

    I don't see how he would influence the opinion of anyone remotely knowledgeable about guitars.

    The reason those guitars are shite is not that they are Chinese, but that they are illegal counterfeit rip-offs. Ethnicity/nationality has nothing to do with it. Crime takes place in every country.
     
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    Gmal Senior Member

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    On the more serious side, and to answear my own question: No, nobody is that stupid.

    The real pproblem with these guitars comes when someone imports eight of them and sells them off for 1200 dollars on CL, Ebay or whatever, to some poor guy who doesn`t play himself.
    He just thinks he just got his son the best birthdaygift ever!
     
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    Nowdays not even Gibson are that great.I wont even begin to think about the quality of the counterfeits.I totally get it if your budget is 300$ but i cant see the reason to buy a Gibson counterfeit other than to fool yourself (or others) that its a real Gibson.There are a lot of 300$ guitars out there from respected companies that are descent enough.My first electric was a Yamaha Pacifica 112VCX,cost me 270 euro brand new and it was suprisingly good for the money.
     
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    Was it on here where someone bought a Chibson online, completely stripped & dissected it and posted the results? It wasn't pretty as I recall.

    I'd sooner buy an Epiphone I was happy with than a Chibson.
     
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    Yep, you could buy an Epi, a Yamaha, an Ibanez, a Squier, etc - many other choices out there if you dont have a lot to spend - or dont want to. Not to mention the used market where bargains are everywhere.
     
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    Why did my post get deleted???????? I stated that I own 2 Chibsons with some explanation and it got deleted??
     
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    you posted a link to an illegal counterfeiter
     
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    Guys Im gonna get thrown out of the forum for saying this... I have 2 Les Paul Customs - one really nice yellowed white one, and a black beauty. I've owned several Gibsons over the years. Love Gibson.

    I also have 2 of these Chibsons. I have one in antique Pelham Blue w/ ebony board and one with the natural finish and maple board. Both were custom made for me by communicating with one of the Chinese sellers on the site where I purchased.

    For the money, they are pheonominal. Better than any Epiphone I've ever owned. Yes, you have to change out most hardware, but everyone does that anyway?!?!?! Most guys buy $4000 Gibsons and immediately change the tuners, pickups, bridge, pots, etc. Thats a DUMB argument and I've read it many times ("Why would you buy a $300 guitar then spend another $400 to replace all the parts").

    Flame me for the legal reasons not to own one, thats fine with me. But the quality is not crap - not the ones I own. They were made specifically for me. For $300 I guarentee 95% of even advanced guitar plays can't tell its not a real Gibson. I've never had a single person say "Wait a minute... thats not real!!". I have Antiquities in one, 59/JB combo in the other one. Bumblebees. Grovers. They play and sound fantastic for the money.
     
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    I figured once I thought about it. I removed the link.
     
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  18. stringbender11

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    Gibson put the whammy on you! ;)
     
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    Probably... No I posted the link where I bought the guitar. I wasn't even thinking about it being against the rules but they were right to delete it.
     
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    Oh, and the "posers who only want a Gibson logo" argument is invalid as well. We have tons of guys here spending $10k on their "59 replicas" - that clearly say Gibson on the headstock. But for some reason we drool all over those.
     
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