SGs, neckdive and you

Discussion in 'Other Gibsons' started by FennRx, Dec 31, 2017.

Is neckdive a deal breaker?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    75.4%
  3. Pie

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  1. FennRx

    FennRx Senior Member

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    So after posting about my SG, I’ve seen lots of comments here and elsewhere about neckdive and how it’s annoying, unbearable, etc

    Sure my SG has neckdive, but I find it to be a non issue since my left hand is on the neck 99% of the time anyways. I couldn’t see passing up or selling an otherwise awesome guitar over that.

    And discuss. No big deal? Or deal breaker?
     
  2. XpensiveWino

    XpensiveWino Senior Member

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    Depends on the price/value I'm getting. In my experience, not all SGs have the neck dive, and there's so many at such good prices, I'd probably pass on one that has a neck dive issue. OTOH if it was a killer guitar (RI or Custom) that had the neck dive, but the price was a steal, then I'd be all over it.

    Side note, my father has a great SG that has bolts filled with lead glued into the control cavity. It has no neck dive...
     
  3. Pop1655

    Pop1655 Premium Member

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    Never seen one the right strap wouldn’t cure.
     
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  4. Bobby Mahogany

    Bobby Mahogany Senior Member

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    Worst case scenario, install a hidden strap lock in the upper horn.
    Problem solved.

    Actually I might do that to my LP Special.
    I hate the strap button behind the heel.
     
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  5. HeartString

    HeartString Slag Eater Premium Member

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    I have no noticeable neck dive in my 50's Tribute SG. I have p90's and I love em.
     
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  6. bossaddict

    bossaddict @david.beason on IG Premium Member

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    I like the thread title. I feel like I should be looking contemplatively at a tri-fold pamphlet.

    I voted "no."
     
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  7. Tanqueray

    Tanqueray Senior Member

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    My Classic dives like crazy but it's gotten better since I swapped out the schaller strap locks for the originals. It should get even better if I put on lighter tuners.
     
  8. Kris Ford

    Kris Ford Senior Member

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    A good ruff backed strap will solve this..if it's the slick seat-belt type..then they all dive IME..
     
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    musicmaniac Senior Member

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    Luckily my SG is pretty much balanced but I wouldn't let it bother me either way because it sounds and plays so good.
     
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  10. Guitaraxe

    Guitaraxe Senior Member

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    Nah!
     
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    Biddlin Senior Member

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    I have six SGs. None have had unmanageable neck dive. My Classic responded very positively to the addition of a Maestro vibrola. Generally, SGs are very light and require little strength to hold. I do use good quality well fitting straps on all of my guitars. For blazing leads, SGs are my weapon of choice.
     
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  12. drpietrzak

    drpietrzak Senior Member

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    If I let go of it both arms in the air there can be neck dive. I do not typically do that though. It is my right arm on the body that really is what prevents it. My left arm really needs to be free to move so it really not that arm.
     
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  13. SGeoff

    SGeoff Premium Member

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    wide ass suede strap is your friend. that will usually deal with it
     
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  14. Matt_Krush

    Matt_Krush Senior Member

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    Yep...^^^
    I been using Franklin 2.5" suede straps for years. No neck dive on any of my guitars.
     
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    Thumpalumpacus Senior Member

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    No big deal to me. My Epi SG had neckdive, easily cured by a suede strap. Both Gibby SGs I've owned were fairly well balanced ... But I only use suede straps any more anyway, so they might have been neck-heavy and I just didn't notice.

    Nah, no deal-breaker for me, and better than a boat-anchor for those two-hour runs.
     
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  16. cooljuk

    cooljuk Transducer Producer Premium Member

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    They don't ALL dive, you know. The balance depends on the timber and hardware.

    If you have locking Grovers on a big 70's headstock, a maple neck, and mini humbuckers with cast hardware - well, you get the idea. Center of gravity shifts. We all know that not all wood blanks weight the same either, so there's another factor.

    If neck dive is a problem on an SG you are looking at, try another few.

    ...and use a rough backed strap for some friction.
     
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    Some dive no matter what, speaking from experience, and I have 2.5" & 4" straps, both leather-backed & suede. Huge deal breaker for me.
     
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    Mine doesn't dive at all. I bought it a wide suede strap right away when I got it but it really doesn't need it
     
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    ACEit Senior Member

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    LOL
    That's very "heavy metal"...
    Nice idea, but if you wanna go the McGiver way I will use the lead adesive strip that in tire shop are meant for balancing wheels.. they are all lead and flat.. smaller and easier to place.
    :dude:

    BTW if my two sg has neck dive I don't even notice.. nor playing them hanged on the strap nor when I play seated.
    Actually it bother me more the "Body dive" of my LPs when I play seated

    :eek:
     
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  20. Uncle Remus

    Uncle Remus Silver Supporter

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    What neck dive? I made this strap for neck heavy guitars. I didn't spend a lot of time tooling or anything. I basically just cut a piece of double shoulder leather, put a couple of holes in it, textured it a bit with a meat tenderizing mallet, beveled the edges, and finished it with olive oil. I left the inside wooly and it works great.
     

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