Setting Intonation

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  1. Paully

    Paully Senior Member

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    I've got an €pi Les Paul Special 1 p90's, with the wrap over bridge.
    I have found an Allen wrench that almost fits the set screw on the bridge/saddle. The one that came with the guitar is too small. I got the bridge closer to the nut, but she still rings sharp.
    Advice?
    Tks,
    Paully
     
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    Stillhouse Senior Member

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    If it's sharp you need to move the bridge or saddle away from the nut. If flat move towards the nut.
     
  3. Paully

    Paully Senior Member

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    Ahh that explains it.
    Tks.
    Paully
     
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  4. Ambrola

    Ambrola Senior Member

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    What rings sharp? All of the strings? I have never heard of that. One string normally goes sharp or flat. You can set it at the 12th fret. Play it open and then again at the 12th. The 12th fret is half way from bridge and nut. This will help you.
     
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    Brians Evil Twin Poophoria Sōtō Zen V.I.P. Member

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    12th fret, not 13th.
     
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    Ambrola Senior Member

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    Opps, my mistake. I edited it to make it correct. But that is a good video by one of the best guitarist ever.
     
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    OOPS another mistake.
     
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    WaywerdSon Senior Member

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    Of course a strobe is the best way to set intonation, but the harmonic at the 12th trick works well if you remember not to fret the note too hard. Play the 12th fret harmonic and then play the same string fretted at the 12th. You can usually get pretty close by ear. You will end up setting it slightly sharp if you squeeze too much. A fretted instrument will never have 100% perfect intonation anyway, so as long as its reasonably close you will sound just fine
     
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    Jeebus now we know why Joe never starts a show on time.
     
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    ehb Chief Discombobulator Premium Member

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    "Run away from sharp objects."

    Think it out.
     
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    NorlinBlackBeauty Senior Member

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    I've never seen that ... Joe rocks! :)
     
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    Ambrola Senior Member

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    :jam:Walsh has always rocked. He be my hero.:acoustic:
     
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    NorlinBlackBeauty Senior Member

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    Agreed. That clip was not very useful for novices, but gets all the important points across only the way Joe could.
     
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    LP121 Senior Member

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    See, things like this may sound silly, but they really help a simpleton like me. :laugh2:
     
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    Paully Senior Member

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    I gots me intonation set. :acoustic:
     
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    rednefceleb Senior Member

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    :) :) J. Page played a Danelctro DC-59er 6 string <kind of an oldie> and fitted it with a Schaller 6 string adjustable bridge. It was a solid fit that solved his intonation problems well enough to render his guitar fully adjustable. I had one of those Schaller adjustables on an old L.P. Special & it worked like a charm! They don't fit on <every application perfectly> but took care of my woes. Good old Schaller! Quality stuff. :) :)
     
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    Jymbopalyse Senior Member

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    A quick thought about your allen wrench.
    If it 'almost' fits. You probably need a metric wrench instead of a standard one. (or is it the other way around ?)
     
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    ehb Chief Discombobulator Premium Member

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    Metric.

    Harbor Freight has dual sets dirt cheap...
     
  19. Paully

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    I've got more "Allen" wrenches than I know what to do with.
    Imperial and Metric both.
    Thanks for advice.
     
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    Metrics sucks! Why can't all tools be in inches?
     

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