Sellers on Ebay who DO NOT own the guitars they sell

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  1. Boyinblack

    Boyinblack Senior Member

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    hahaha that is pretty funny.

    :)

    hahaha

    the owner is like..."this is the 5th person to come in today to check the pots on this"

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  2. irocdave12

    irocdave12 Senior Member

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    That's the idea lol ... Give it whirl sometime. Some of the responses you get for why they can't give you the answer are quite entertaining. Sometimes they make shit up and pretty sure sometimes they actually get the answer
     
  3. m5570

    m5570 Junior Member

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    I have a guy currently trying to sell me a guitar that was listed by 3 people... except it sold 3 weeks ago... & he doesn’t know.
     
  4. jay1williams

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  5. m5570

    m5570 Junior Member

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    don't forget Far East Man!
     
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  7. lester polfuss

    lester polfuss Junior Member

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    I have bought (and occasionally still buy) many guitars from Japan. Things have changed radically in the past year or so, and now e-bay is crowded with many "drop shippers" - people who list items that are not in their possession. You can still trust some reputable vendors (such as Tokywax, Batfuk, Solemettere, Great Japanese guy) and the stores (TC Gakki, Ishibashi) who actually own the pieces they list, but it's easy to see the marketplace has been forever polluted by the others. E-bay (whom I tried to address the issue with) simply won't do anything as they make money anyhow - many "drop shippers" pay extra fees to prioritize their listings, and that's all e-bay cares about. In regards to shipping, EMS is usually faster than UPS ground and USPS, and used musical instruments should not be subject to importing taxes, as per US customs website. I hope this helps!
     
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    Anyone know about sellers on Reverb?
     
  9. longfxukxnhair

    longfxukxnhair Senior Member

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    I am starting to notice that it is happening on Reverb now
     
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  10. longfxukxnhair

    longfxukxnhair Senior Member

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    I had a long chat with Ebay. I provided a link to this thread and gave them several current examples on Ebay
     
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  11. m5570

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    I don’t think eBay cares... still a shit ton up there...
     
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  13. nigelthebald

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    Thank you for bringing the list up to date, and also for putting it in alphabetical order, @paruwi - much easier to check!
     
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  14. greens

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    It seems to me that the prices of these middle men are often about what you would pay buying it direct and then paying Rinya or whoever to ship. And the buyer protection is probably better with ebay. Am I missing something?
     
  15. longfxukxnhair

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    I think on avg their mark up is 40% or more. I dont know if that is in line with using a proxy service
     
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  16. greens

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    Yes, that is about right. One guitar I was looking it is listed multiple times on ebay, most cheaply at $1,174.00 total. I see it on digimart for $824.18. So the markup is right about 40% ($350). By my calculation Rinkya would charge me $100 in commision fees and then probably another $200 for shipping, if I'm understanding correctly. So the difference is about $50 or possibly less.
     
  17. m5570

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    Ninjaguitar is another one. Obviously an American. When he broke down his cost he added the Jap tax in as the geetar was up for auction on the Jap sites. Reported his ass & the EBay guy just hemmed & hawed. They didn’t do shit!

    I even posted the link to the auction in one of my replies to him so it was all captured and they didn’t care. Maybe we should hit up the eBay fb and post a bunch of links? I have no problem w/ drop shipping other things but the bs when you don’t own the guitar yr trying to sell... that’s fucked up.
     
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  18. greens

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    Honestly, I don't understand what the problem is. All these guys are doing is giving you another option. I find their listings helpful because it tips me off about what is on digimart these days. And if you want you can find the cheapest reseller, compare it with the Rinkya price, and decide if it is worth paying a little bit more to save the hassle of using Rinkya.
     
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  19. longfxukxnhair

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    The problem is that they dont say that they are acting as a middle man. I have asked numerous questions and they give vague answers while acting like the guitar is in their possession.Then there are stories of bait and switch because the actual guitar sold in store.


    If they would be upfront about what they are doing, I wouldnt have as much of a problem with it.
     
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  20. m5570

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    Another option? No, they are not. If you’re too lazy to look at the sites that’s on you. But you sound like you’re one of them from your post... so which one are you?
     

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