Saul Goode SAF series

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    On a side note, sounds great acoustically, sound great plugged in and plays really well, shame I don't
     
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    IMG_7447.JPG got cracking on number4 SAF this one is karri, apparently some form of eucalyptus, hoping to do some chambering and glue the middle and the back together.

    I'm going to try to make this one even more chambered/hollow.

    Tomorrow I'll also work on another neck for the #3 since I stuffed up measuring the scale length
     
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    IMG_7450.JPG IMG_7451.JPG Loving the new update for the sites softwares, really easy to use on my phone.

    Anyway I have all the pieces of the body trimmed up, left some room for some final sanding.

    I roughed in where the template is going to sit for the carve IMG_7452.JPG the template is a lot more even around the edge.

    On this build I want to try to do more carving on the top to make it like a soundboard. I want to leave air between the top and the middle part of the pancake but leaving a choc for the bridge to anchor in.

    And while I'm at it u will chamber out the back as well and leave a chunk of wood the same spot as the top to try to get good resonance.

    It's all an experiment but even with all the mistakes in the last SAF it's still the best sounding guitar I have made.

    Speaking of mistakes I will be doing pup routes after I cut the neck pocket lol

    Which I will do a picture in the next post because for some reason they pictures don't go in the order I want
     
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    IMG_7452.JPG IMG_7453.JPG IMG_7454.JPG So in all the top will have an inner carve and outer carve and the back will be flat on the inside and maybe a slight bevel on the back.

    I'm working on number since I have to make a new neck for number 3 which I will do today
     
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    IMG_7457.JPG IMG_7458.JPG Got the neck cut, binding channel done, binding and frets in, cut the middle pancake and chambered the back,

    Went maybe a bit thin so I decided not to chamber the Centre block part of it.
     
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    IMG_7479.JPG Thanks IMG_7481.JPG IMG_7484.JPG I ended up cutting the middle part out of number three and glued in a karri centre block

    In doing so I have a clean slate for the pups/neck pocket and bridge studs,

    The neck is tight with no play, but has a small(smaller than 1mm) gap on the bass side of the neck
     
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    IMG_7480.JPG IMG_7482.JPG I need to sand the pine level with the karri
     
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    IMG_7517.JPG IMG_7518.JPG I ended up levelling off the pine to the karri, hollowed out the top and put a new top on, sounds like a lot of work but it look great and not a lot of work.

    The new top was about 3 mm too small on each side, but after using a round over bit on the router it's a non issue.

    Even looks like faux binding where the pine meets the top

    Hoping to do the neck pocket bridge post drilling and the routes on Friday, thinking mini humbuckers. I'll do the finish sanding hopefully on the weekend and glue the neck on
     
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    IMG_7550.JPG IMG_7551.JPG IMG_7564.JPG IMG_7565.JPG Had some neck fitting issues so I thought I would make a feature out of it.

    Used some meranti and some tongue depressors for some contrast, I dig it but sadly I will have to keep this one, I couldn't sell it know all the mistakes I have made
     
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    IMG_7571.JPG IMG_7573.JPG IMG_7575.JPG
     
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    IMG_7577.JPG Got these is the mail yesterday, the neck pup ring was broken in transit should glue back together, but I'm thinking of using a metal ring on that one and chrome covers for the p90
     
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    IMG_0985.JPG IMG_0986.JPG IMG_0987.JPG IMG_7580.JPG IMG_7581.JPG Everything sanded down to superfine steel wool, just need to make the neck pup route deeper and slightly enlarged the bridge pup.

    I'll round off the fret ends tomorrow then clear coat it, I'll probably oil the fretboard so it's a bit different to the top and the neck since it's all the same wood
     
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    Also still not sure whether to put a b5 style bigsby or just a trapeze again, I should decide before I put finish on it
     
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    IMG_7584.JPG IMG_7585.JPG IMG_7586.JPG Clear coated
     
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    Very, very nice. I love the way this design has progressed, along with your building. Beautiful work!
     
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    Thanks mate, I really feel this could be the best even with the few mistakes, was thinking about setting it up today but.... I have no guitar strings.

    So I will keep clear coating. Had to make a new back cover plate, the jarrah ended up warping.

    So I need to shield the plate and underneath the top. I use the aluminium tape, was thinking of just wrapping the pup leads but I say I will do the first option.

    Already put the ground wire in, so there isn't much to do.

    I have started to stockpile some pine to do some solid bodies and a couple more safs. I bought some cheap necks off eBay so I'm thinking a pine caster, jazz master and a strat.

    So yeah got some blanks glued up and some more to glue, 2 neck blanks that I will plane off tomorrow and route for a heel end truss rod. Using karri for the necks and some Blackbutt for some fingerboard.

    Holidays start in a week so I will be hitting the ground running and should get a lot done
     
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    IMG_7599.JPG New top for a new SAF, after skimming the edges off the karri it wasn't quite wide enough so I put some blackbutt in between.

    Got the neck blanks levelled and got two blackbutt fingerboards.

    Still clear coating the above pictured guitar, I'll do a few more coats and then give it a couple days and piece together when I finally get some strings
     
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    IMG_0989.JPG IMG_0990.JPG I need longer strings and a new cavity cover I think....

    Playing the gbe strings sounds great though, the mini humbucker has regular pole pieces and rectangular pole pieces as well, apart from a Tele lipstick neck pickup the p90 it's my favourite pickup for the neck position

    I don't use neck pickups much. And if I knew I would be having this guitar I wouldn't have bothered
     
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    IMG_7609.JPG Just a bit of tidying up to do, need to cut the nut and lower the bridge.

    Unfortunately the bridge is as low as it goes so I will be grinding/ filing the bottom of it.

    Also I will put a truss rod cover on it once I know the neck has enough tension in it...


    Edit: I think I will be cutting some of the bigsby spring, still sitting too high, the arm won't fold back with hitting the body
     
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    IMG_7610.JPG Just about done, needing a new cavity cover, will do that next week and intonating when I have time and to use a tuner that isn't a phone app..

    Next week I will start another two of these and a few solid bodies, I have the next two weeks so I want to guitar the shit out of those days. I will be getting my router sled made up too
     

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