Saul Goode SAF series

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  1. mux164

    mux164 Senior Member

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    After the success of my last maybe 5 builds I have decided to concentrate on one design
    The design is familiar looking but hopefully different enough that I won't get in trouble. [​IMG]
    Similar to stratensteins (tdpri member)but very unintentional, mine started out as wanting an Es 175 but not having the money to buy one, also it was a test to see if I could essentially make a semi acoustic without any electronics.

    So today I didn't have to work so I made my first lot of templates up(not including neck pocket templates). So I traced the SAF1(the one that's pictured, I then free handed the border for the chambering. Cleaned it up with rasps and the drum sander, used a hole saw to dot the cutaway and waist areas. I used the masking tape and super glue trick to clamp another piece on then went at it on the band saw, disc sander and drum sanders to give me 2 templates exactly the same, the solid one will get a neck pocket cut in it to make it even easier[​IMG]

    After the body templates I made 3 neck templates, found centre and drilled truss rod channels in all of them, cut the outlines, sanded them and all I need to do is finalise the headstock shape,there is a picture of the neck that is going on my tie dye paisley explorer
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    So the plan is to do another one with no electronics with photo transfers of my son on it, and another two natural(possibly jarrah tops, pine backs)with maybe dual buckers or a single p90 maybe mini buckers

    And lastly I found a massive pallet at the local hardware I'm pretty sure it's all Douglas fir so I got all the long boards squared up and I have enough for 3 SAF shape bodies and some left over
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    These are going to be so cool! Cant wait to see them finished. Are you going to do a carved top?
     
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    Depends, if the wood is bland I will carve the tops I might try an angle grinder and a flap disc this time, if I can find some interesting timber for the top I will try to book match it depending on thickness will determine whether I carve the bookmatch, I only have the middle timber for the pancake at the moment I need some maple syrup haha

    One will probably have a trapeze tail piece again and the others will probably have stop tail pieces. Keep in mind they will be done on a tight budget, if they turn out crap they will get painted lol
     
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    Got the third body I. The clamps. Sadly I can't clamp the full size blank because the thicknesser can only plane back pieces that are 14 inches or 35cms so the other piece will be biscuits together to make them level

    I'll cut the bodies on Monday and start chambering, I might be able to get 4 bodies in total, just need to hunt for neck wood(maybe meranti) and some top and back timber

    Thanks for the thanks too Barnaby! Makes it worthwhile doing threads
     
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    Really glad to see this build - nice design and wonderful repurposing of wood. I bet the guitar sounds great! :thumb:
     
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    Got a bit done recently, got the middle part of the bodies cut and shaped. They will most likely be chambered on the weekend.

    I'm using jarrah for the tops, they are thicknessed to about 8mm and are 3 pieces to keep the costs down. I have one I'm the clamps and will pick another 3 pieces for the 2nd top, I may have to put them through the thickness sander if they aren't level. The tops should be a nice contrast to the rest of the body.

    Still not sure what to use for necks and fingerboards [​IMG][​IMG]



    I'm also making a few ukuleles in the same vein, these will xmas presents, the neck on the pictured ile is blu tacked on[​IMG]

    I'm very tempted to leave the lightest one solid and have a jarrah back, have to see how my pennies are.

    Also my first commissioned build is finally finished will post pictures after it meets its new owner
     
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    Thought I'd start with the ukes, so far I have 3 bodies and a neck , 2 are chambered and the one with the jarrah to is solid. If I put electronics in them I will make a cavity in the back.

    Now to the main event, it's been pretty hot lately and I have been working back a bit, that rules out popping over to the men's shed after work. so for the past couple of weeks I have had about 45 mins of lunch times to do some work at the men's shed

    Luckily today was the butchers picnic so it's a public holiday for meat workers, that meant I had a free day to work on these guitars and ukes.

    I realised that when I made my templates I only cut and sanded to the sharpie line, then transferring that to my blanks I went to the sharpie line again. Making my bodies about 5mm bigger than the original.

    After correcting 3 bodies and two templates I started chambering the other 2 bodies, I'll be putting supports in the two that will have pine backs. One of those two will have a pine top and the other with Australian oak that I picked up at masters.

    So the other part of the day was cutting tops and backs for the guitars. Then sanding everything but I am happy with what I got done today.

    And since today is the last full day I will get at the shed i made use of it. Nowa it's some lunch times and Sundays.

    Hoping to get the ukes done for Christmas and hopefully one guitar, and start on a chambered bass[​IMG][​IMG]

    All guitar tops will be carved
     
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    It's all looking good mate. Love the multi-lam neck/fingerboard faux binding effect thing you've done. That is well cool!
     
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    That neck I found in my scrap wood pile after a clean up, it was originally going on a mdf guitar my Mrs bought me, she got it real cheap and with an amp.

    So I seen that neck and thought that would make a good uke neck and a good one to practice with and when I made it I was experimenting with black glue lines. I got the red cedar uke cut up and have some australian oak to use for necks on the other ukes

    In other news I'm not looking forward to doing the inner carves on the oak tops
     
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    Yeah working with oak has taught me one thing. How to sharpen my chisels...
     
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    I'm going to carve to tops with an angle grinder this time I think, I have a few flap discs. I'd love to get them done but I'm going to have to take my time.

    I have been doing weekly parts shopping as well, still need some wood for the necks,

    I cut the oak today for the uke necks, I got 8 sticks from the offcut that I had left over from the tops, I'm going to laminate the jarrah that I thinned out too much, if my arithmetic is correct I need 4 slivers of jarrah and 2 sticks of oak, so I will double up the jarrah in the middle, looking forward to doing the ukes it's a nice change
     
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    Been doing a fair bit on some ukes lately, first picture is a neck blank for a uke, got 3 more to do, second picture is a fb for my explorer build that I have been neglecting. And some more uke stuff.

    Neck got glued in tonight just need to do more sanding
     
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    Had a good day today, finished the SAF prototype uke, got my tie dye paisley glued on the explorer and I also chambered the other two guitars[​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    Another SAF uke, this one is an Australian red cedar top and pine back, Australian oak and jarrah neck, I chambered most of the pine out except around the neck pocket(which I could have the neck is only about 8mm deep in there and the top is 18mm thick. And I left a decent chunk for the bridge.

    The dreaded crooked drilling for the ferrules happened again, next one I'm just going to drill though the back of the bridge for a top loader.

    Just needs a decent sand, the neck glued in then I can clear coat it and put the hardware on

    I'm loving making these lil things[​IMG] [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    Got everything sanded on the cedar uke. Dry fitted the neck and gave it all a sealer coat of satin clear coat, need to paint the white stripe in the body black and the headstock as well[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

    Glue the neck in tomorrow
     
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    Nice!
     
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    Thanks mate, I think I like making these more than guitars, went through my parts tool box and
    I'm going to have 10 sets of machine heads, a heap of Knuts and truss rod covers, I have a good stock pile going, I didn't know I had it all lol
     
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    woah its been ages since i posted, i have started a neck thru seven string ibanez style guitar.

    made two necks and glued the top onto 2 bodies for the SAFs

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    sorry for any double ups
     
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    IMG_7227.JPG IMG_7228.JPG IMG_7229.JPG IMG_0945.JPG IMG_7234.JPG IMG_7235.JPG Finished one of these SAFs, I had a fair few issues with this one, had a huge tear out with the router so this one was destined to be painted.

    After fixing that I stupidly measured for a 25.5 inch scale neck after already routing for pups, another reason to paint as I needed to set the neck deeper and fill in the gaps,

    After that I didn't use the router to step down the carve and just went at it with a flap disc, went fine until I went too deep. So another fix had to be made... while this all happened I thought no way am I putting it in a shop, so I filled in the neck pup and I'm giving it to my cousin
    The glued in piece was the only piece I had that was the right size, just had the grain running 90 degrees to the top


    All in all a big pile of monkey shite
     
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    IMG_7401.JPG IMG_7402.JPG So the pictures appear in the wrong order???

    Anyway this is it finished
     
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