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Discussion in 'Vendor Classifieds' started by cooljuk, Jul 3, 2016.
Awesome documentation of history!!
Thank you. I'm honored to be able to work with history, both in a mechanical capacity and in documenting it.
Seems appropriate to share this, obviously copied (even stolen?), design today:
1957 PAF with steel bobbin mounting screws and an early P-90 A3 magnet:
Any of you pervs want to see a naked 70's strat bobbin?
You like that waxy purple "70's bush" there?
I'd hit it!
1959 Dogear P-90
I never realised quite how deformed the bobbins got on these.....my few I thought were just bottom of the barrel examples.
And they never seem to go together that well. Those two dimples on the baseplates make the whole thing seem like someone cobbled together from ill fitting parts....especially that longer cover and the extra spacer thing on the bridge soapbar.
...and that one is actually in VERY good condition, you can see how clean it is in this photo (same P-90):
...and then, on the other hand, there is THIS sort of nastiness!
Were the caps just re-parafin'ed? Those look great! Was it as simple as making a mold and just pouring the wax in, just paraffin, or anything special? Old wax melt into new? They look fantastic!
Or are they repros/NOS? either way, beautiful.
Just to add to the thread, here's a shot of a Pat# T Top's bobbin markings just for fun!
Makes my set of p90s that I sent you look almost pristine. Mind you mine did have a nice degree of oxidisation going on. The mags looked like an orange patchwork.
ultrasonic cleaner works wonders on cleaning this stuff...
There was no saving those caps. I made replicas to replace the old ones. Printed some paper sleeves, made some moulds, made a blend of wax that wasn't too brittle, etc. They are Gudeman 5% PIOs inside. The original caps and pots are with the guitar, but not installed. They were trashed. The old paper/wax caps are mostly sticky dust 60+ years later. They don't last well.
I DID manage to dig up some photos of how awful the covers and tuners were. It's truly amazing how well these cleaned up. Dental picks and hours of work cleaning, then reshaping and polishing. No shortcuts, that I'm aware of.
See, the covers were painted red, then some of the red was sanded off, then they were painted ivory over the red. Seemed to be household oil based paint, like you would use on your trim and windowsills. The tuners were only painted in the ivory.
Timing was EVERYTHING here, because there were no solvents that would eat the paint, but not the actual covers/buttons. The solvent only helped, but definitely didn't do the majority of the detailed work.
Ironically, the ivory paint seemed to help preserve the tuning buttons, as they didn't dry out, shrink or crack (much).
It doesn't get much better than this!
I guess I don't really have a good close up photo of the caps, but these two are about as good as I have:
another set I made...
While I was making caps, I also made this custom set for my pal Griffin to go along with his custom oxblood butyrate bobbin ReWind humbuckers, but that's a story for another thread - non-vintage, of course.
Great idea with the caps!
Patent number decal, PAF-bobbin, poly wire wound, late 1960's humbucker:
This is one of the last of the PAF-bobbin humbuckers.
Underside bobbin wire windows / start lead holes present. ...and unused.
Why don't more guys who build and repair pickups do this? This is SO MUCH FUN!
With the like button down, it's hard to gauge interest. Give me a shout if you like what I'm doing here or let me know if you think I could make it better somehow.
Buck naked PAF bobbin with the infamous "extra circle" present!
very nice,.,love this thread