Restoration Eelco Gelling burst

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  1. Mouse

    Mouse Senior Member

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    not so, those factories in europe are in deep recession so you can buy 50 kilos, just tell em it's for guitar :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
     
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  2. single cut 54

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    Hey Mouse, if that's the case, get some original '50s bindings from a Burst/Gold Top(Maybe from the Netherlands:naughty:) and have some made. I'll split the costs with you and we can have 25Kilos each.:laugh2:
     
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  3. gitmohair

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    How many guitars could you bind with 25 kilos of this stuff?
     
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    I'm not sure gitmo, but total neck bindings can't weigh more than a gram or two.
    So approx enough for eternity.:laugh2::laugh2:
     
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  7. Mindfrigg

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    It would seem that it would be a pretty good supply of celluloid for at least experimentation. The ones I've seen are nearly always a bone/ivory color. Like aged binding.
     
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    Frank, I have a massive supply of Bone/Ivory celluloid binding material, it just isn't quit the same ''very slightly pink'' shade of the Original '50s Gibson Les Paul binding. Also, the colour does seem to vary from the beginning of production to the late '50s and very early sixties. There is a definite contrast(and material difference) between body and neck binding. The body binding almost has the colour of ''dried linseed putty'' but the neck binding has a very, very slight ''pink'' tinge by comparison. I know colour description is subjective and it is extremely difficult for me to describe with mere words but the contrast is definitely there.
    Hey, Sue will be home from work soon, I need to go and make some sawdust so that she thinks I've actually been working. :thumb::laugh2:
     
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  10. single cut 54

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    Hey, where's Wodders and Phil? It feels like ''The Onehippie Goes Vintage''
    thread.:thumb::laugh2:
     
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    May I make a suggestion. Keep a little bag of sawdust under your work bench and then 10 minutes before she's due home pour it onto the workshop floor, stand in it and walk back and forth to the fridge fifteen times and three times to the bog upstairs. She'll never suspect a thing!:thumb:
     
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    I would keep the fridge walks to a minimum lest she go looking for the beer bottles.
     
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    Do you live in KY? I was n Louisville for 9 yrs. A lot of horses in Louisville and Lexington.
     
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  14. single cut 54

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    Hey, Cooks and Tag2, the little f****r's got me weighed up anyway.
    She even searches the bins for wrappers to see how much of the fridge contents I've eaten and checks the coffee bean bag to check consumption levels.:laugh2::laugh2:
     
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    This is a highly misleading statement.

    Just because you got a "deal" on a Strat does not mean that interest had waned in vintage Strats or Les Pauls. Sure, there were a LOT of guitarists that traded in vintage guitars for the latest hot rod Superstrat. Why? Because they were either naive or stupid. This is the era when guitar shops REALLY banked coin. :laugh2:

    Vintage guitars, don't necessarily correlate to what is going on in the new and used guitar market. The vintage Strat "heyday" of the 80's peaked around 1987-1988, that was easily four years after the Floyd Rose/Kramer/Charvel/Jackson storm hit. 1988 is arguably the biggest year for hair metal guitar trends.

    I have been on the look out for Bursts since 1983 and there has never been a period where I felt I could get one for a "reasonable" price because the price/interest dipped.
     
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    Do what I used to. Grab a handful of sawdust from the shop vac and spread it judiciously in strategic locations.

    I do know what you mean about subtle colors. Most people think 'brown is brown' too. But there's a million tints twixt green/black/red/yellow brown.


    Another question. I know you've said it's easy enough to tint binding to a superficial depth. So..no solvent stain would permeate it to a deeper level? I kniw anything hot enough to do so would also mess with the finish of the binding, but don't you have to finesse it to shape by sanding anyway? Or scrape? Or do you cut it to fit and leave it?



    I have another question for the restoration folks here. Color matching was my particular forte. Does everyone here understand/use the relationship of complements to help to fine tune colors? Natural 'greying' that is.
     
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    Great minds think alike. Or maybe it's the opposite.
     
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    Yes, I now live North of Lexington. I lived in Louisville until age ten, then moved to Lexington and grew up and worked there.

    Yep. 'Horse Capital of The World'. Or so they claim.
     
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    Is this thread a discussion of a vintage Gibson?

    If not, perhaps the mods could close it.
     
  20. single cut 54

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    It certainly began as one but things have digressed slightly.
     
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