Rescuing another broken headstock guitar. $30 Epi SG Craigslist find

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  1. Who

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    This looks like the start of a new project. I saw the ad, e-mailed quickly, got a text back. The seller is just the kind of seller you want to deal with... fast to respond, and available when the item is listed. Within an hour of the post, it was home and ready for a new thread on MLP.

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    SGhead1.jpg SGhead2.jpg SGneck1.jpg SGneck2.jpg SGfretb1.jpg [​IMG]
     
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    Wow, that is a nasty break. Can't wait to see your repair technique. Do you already have a plan in mind? I've always steered clear of neck injuries, don't know enough about neck repairs to trust myself.
     
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    'Searches for dowels....'

    :)
     
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    Ouch! That thing took a pretty good whack.
    That's gonna be fun getting rid of all that epoxy.
    That's going to be a tricky repair, best of luck with it.
     
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    am i correct that getting the old glue/epoxy or whatever the guy used, is going to be the bigger pain in the butt for the whole project?...what do you do...sit there with a dental pic for hours? can any chemical remove it? heat it up with a heat gun ?

    or just strip it for parts and use it for firewood starter...lol
     
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    Wow, for $30 it's a great find, but a tough break! (Yes, I'm being ironical! :p )

    I'm trying to imagine if Greg would use his famous splines, or replace the broken areas with a new piece... Anyway, I wish you luck. I'll stay tuned! :thumb:
     
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  8. Who

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    Not exactly.
    I wasn't sure to do. I texted the seller, and found out he used Elmer's Wood Glue.

    The internet says to use vinegar to break a wood glue bond, so that's where I started.

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    It definitely softened the surface. But it wasn't going to come off this way. I didn't want to pick and scrape, because I don't want to harm any of the underlying wood.

    I then moved on to "Jasco Premium Paint & Epoxy Remover" that I had used in my last thread on stripping poly. The can says it works on epoxy and enamel, so I figured it would be up for the job on wood glue.

    I didn't take any pics of these steps. I glopped on the stripper, let it sit for 15 minutes, then tried to brush it off. I started with a brass brush, but that was too abusive to the wood.
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    I then moved on to a chem-resistant cleaning brush (like in gun cleaning kits).
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    These are great little brushes. Everyone should have some. The short bristles do a good job of digging in without scratching.



    It took a dozen or so applications using the stripper. I'd scrub with acetone every once in a while to see how it was going. I did very little "picking", mostly just chem/brush/repeat.

    Finally, I was staisfied. A gave a final scrub with acetone. Click the pics below, you can see this is very porous wood. I'm not sure if that is good or bad, when it comes to adding Titebond. I'm thinking bad.

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    Just saw the close ups. Even worse than I initially thought. I sure hope you can fix it, but if not, I'd like to liberate those tuners :naughty:
     
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    I knew about using vinegar for cleaning metal parts, but not for wood... Don't be surprised if you find yourself craving salad after the repair. :D
     
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    Porous grain:

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    How I'm protecting the main bits, during this project. Taped up in bubble mailer bags and cardboard. Crude, but effective.
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    Glue time.

    I brushed a slight dampness of water on the bare wood (based on an info sheet from Titebond), then brushed on a heavy application of Titebond II.


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    I'm no "luthier". I'm not a home "woodworker". I'm a guy who like to work on stuff. Much of my work is "improvised". That is what my clamping table is... improvised.

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    Let me try to explain what's going on here....

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    Time to walk away and go do the lawn.
     

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    your covering of the other areas looks like a few eBay guitars i bought from sellers who had no clue how to ship a guitar....lol

    thanks for the old glue removal pics, that came out great

    very curious if tightbond will hold that severe of a break without needing to put a few splines in....do you think that is all it will need?
     
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    I should use that pic, and a pic of the separated headstock, and start a phony "seller shipped a guitar this way thread". :laugh2:
     
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    I can't imagine that gluing the break will be enough.

    I'll be reading about my options for this. If I had a steady hand with a Dremel, I'd be doing splines without hesitation.

    As it is.... I'll be doing splines WITH hesitation.


    If I hadn't read about splines, and I was just doing this on "gut feeling" and knowledge of materials I've used in the past, I'd just shave off a layer of wood on the back, and lay a couple of layers of fiberglass in resin.


    Again.... I'm no "woodworker". Yet.
     
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    hey a $30 patient to practice on.... dont sweat it, go for it

    i was looking for an excuse to buy a dremel , i hope it is for a different use than a neck that i break...:hmm:
     
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    I'm tempted to string this guitar and play it.

    Getting it this far wasn't a massive amount of work. If it were to snap again... I could just repeat what I've done, and add splines.


    This is just laziness talking to me.
     
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    How long has it been left glueing? I would leave it that way a couple of days.
     
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