Real M69 ring???

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  1. RockinRoge

    RockinRoge Junior Member

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    And of course with a black light next to a Gibson historic ring.

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    Any ideas on where or who I can talk with to confirm if it is or is not a real 57-60 m69 ring?
    And if it is how much is it worth?
     
  3. idnotbe

    idnotbe Senior Member

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    I am seeing via mobile phone and not comparing with the original's photos.
    But to me, they seems the original.
     
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    d1m1 Senior Member

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    these marks are typical artefacts from silicon molds. high end replicas used to have them. but i could be wrong. i would be surprised if they re real tho. but who knows

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  5. RockinRoge

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    I've been trying to clean off massive built up gunk (some of what was circled) off it as you can see from the first pictures. All I've been using so far is water and q-tips, any suggestions on how to remove the gunk safely?
     
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    Eric Ernest (on here) can maybe help you. Something about them just doesn't sit right with me, but I can't put my finger on it. Maybe it's the color, or the look of the material. But then again, I didn't realize the repros got the blacklight glow right.

    As for what's it's worth...there is real one for sale for $6k. Of course, it may very well be sitting there a while. (Is it work $6k if a buyer only comes by every 2 years at that price? IDK) It's at least $4k, IMO...if real.
     
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    Artifacts, or q-tip fuzz..:hmm:
     
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    Too difficult to verify anything based on an internet photo. I have seen many original M69's on vintage Les Pauls. But, I had the opportunity to actually have a pair of real M69 rings in my hands one time. That was rather eye opening. Once see them up that close you understand the best repro rings are still not that close. Close...but a distant second.
     
  9. d1m1

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    if the circeled isnt plastic, but gunk and dirt, then they could be real. and you know they could be 10K worth. those rings are the holy grail.
     
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    Dont believe it ??
    I have an origonal 57.and 2 59,s and I have a spare set of origonal rings and a set of repo rings and believe me when I say you def cannot tell the diff
    even under black light between them
     
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    d1m1 Senior Member

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    :photos::photos::photos:
     
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    Yup,good ol' fashion gunk.
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  13. d1m1

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    Damn it looks real! Can you make some pics of the neck pup?

    Any experts here?
     
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    Sorry, the neck pup ring is some cheap knockoff from the 70's, the guitar seems to be a hodgepodge of older guitar parts.
     
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    That looks a lot more "real" than the earlier pictures. But I'm still not qualified enough to say if they are truly real.
     
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    Sorry I dont normaly post on these forums but if you want to see the bursts look on pages 126\127 and 204\205 of the new Burst Believers book by Vic Dapra
     
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    yep and on the rest of the pages you can see my bursts :thumb:
     
  18. j2tgw

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    This is why I dont post !!I have no reason to lie ,Get a life
     
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    no you should get a life. you just created an account here (propably fake) just to post that this 99% real ring, is not real. your argument is that you own couple bursts and real rings and BS. you have to proof what you re saying! we have a rule here. fotos or it never happend! you could be someone who wants to buy that real ring for $20 while it is worth $5K. so you create a new fake account to pretend you are an expert because you own all famous bursts in this world, degrade the ring and come with a second account to buy it for cheap. you see there are hundrets of fake profils and people try every day to cheat. if you want to be accepted and to argue here than you have to bring proofs. otherwise let it be at all. and now get a life!!
     
  20. j2tgw

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    I think you will find I have been a member on this forum for a long time and I do not post because there are so many guys who think they know it all but have never had the real thing in there hands .(Internet bully boys )
    I do not know how to post a pic on these forums I have never done it before and why should I
    If you want proof send me your email address and i will send you all the pics you want I have nothing to gain from this and I am not wanting any arguments I am to old for this **** !
    If you dont believe me that is up to you ?
    have a nice day
    Tom
     
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