Puerto Rico

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  1. SteveGangi

    SteveGangi V.I.P. Member

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    A lot of Cali is technically desert too.
     
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    We grow a lot of crops here in Phoenix too. But cotton doesn't taste very good.
     
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  3. Dolebludger

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    I agree that supplying ready and able truck drivers is not the entire solution. First, there needs to be bulldozers to clear the roads. And before that, there needs to be fuel for both dozers and trucks. But at least the mainland unions are doing SOMETHING to address at least part of a complex problem. Perhaps (and I hope) there are some areas in PR that the trucks can reach with relief supplies where the roads are clear enough, at a distance that can be reached on available fuel. I admitt that I am not generally a fan of many unions, but this is the best partial response to this mess of which I've heard.

    Tone Deaf,

    I am curious what stain unions "have placed upon themselves" that has anything to do with the PR disaster. Please fill me in.
     
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  4. Marshall & Moonshine

    Marshall & Moonshine Senior Member

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    All I’ve seen in those links is that teamsters is trying to gather truckers from everywhere to get them there.
    No mention of union holdouts. You guys are MAKING SHIT UP, from the articles posted.
    Post an article that shows which unions are holding out relief.
    Or STFU.
    Maybe 80% of the driver’s didn’t come to work today because their houses are underfuckingwater and their families and friends need help. If you think I’m not callng in sick that day, you’re nuts.
    My family and friends come first, if I’m not enlisted. It’s still “helping people”....
    It’s just helping people I care more about, and that’s my prerogative.
    No union I know of would use this as leverage. It would be the death of unions.
    So post the articles.
     
  5. Bill Hicklin

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    Diesel fuel, at least, shouldn't be a problem if the Navy's there. Big Blue runs on Diesel Fuel Marine, and one Kaiser-class oiler can carry and offload 180,000 barrels (that's seven and a half million gallons).
     
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  6. MikeyTheCat

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  7. HeartString

    HeartString Senior Member Premium Member

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    Damn straight. I've never been union but if you look around, the only good paying jobs anymore are Government and union jobs and if it wasn't for a union presence, we'd still be at 2.75 per hour minimum wage imho. I talked to a friend that has a winter home in PR and he didn't have severe damage so it's not a total loss down there but it is massive devastation. I gave him a donation that will go directly to the neighbors in need. 100%
     
  8. pnuggett

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    PR BS
    You actually fell for that?
    I wonder what she was screaming through that megaphone. Maybe, "WE'RE ALL DYING!" "WE'RE ALL DYING!"
     
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  9. KSG_Standard

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    There's another one of those lies you're going on about. It's weird that you're able to spot some lie so easily, while you fall for others just as easily. Even the WaPo found your claims to be a lie (3 Pinocchios). Confirmation bias is a bitch.
     
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    Watch how hard CW tries to bring politics into the issue and the head of FEMA will have nothing to do with it. Seems like a very serious no nonsense guy.

     
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  11. Crotch

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    Brock Long has been pretty damn impressive. I watched the interview yesterday. Its nice to see real facts instead of agenda driven ones as much as the interviewer tried. he wasn't biting.
     
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  12. Tone deaf

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    That guy is awesome. Great point that there is no one who would change jobs with him right now.
     
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  13. MikeyTheCat

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    The only thing missing was him standing up and dropping the mic.
    The guy has his s4it together.
     
  14. MikeyTheCat

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    BTW Brock Long is up there with Buck Sexton and Brit Hume for awesome names.
     
  15. SteveGangi

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    It can be, sometimes.
     
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  16. Dolebludger

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    I think Brock Long have a very good and accurate description of the logistic problems in PR.
     
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  17. SteveGangi

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    I think I've had a belly full of this so called "social media" and the damn lies that are created and spread by it.
     
  18. MikeyTheCat

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    Well there was the Lanie Green Twitter nonsense about 33 million helping to sink PR, not mentioning that the majority of the money was invested by PR years before the golf course's name change, or that the 33 million was 0.03 of Puerto Rico's 123 billion dollar debt.
    And like the Green story it seems there were some truth about shenanigans by the truckers union but likely that most Of them couldn't get to the docks, were lacking fuel or the ones who went to the wrong locations.

    If you see it on social media triple check the story.
     
  19. Thumpalumpacus

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    Well, there's no point in this discussion if you're already convinced you're right. Thanks anyway.
     
  20. Shelbyblues

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    Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.... ;)
     
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