Pre-Amp buying questionaire

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  1. acstorfer

    acstorfer Senior Member

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    It is unbelievable how many folks as of late have been asking for amp recomendations. It is amazing how many folks would let perfect strangers help them decide on how to spend a substantial amount of money. It is amazing how many folks expect recomendations for amplifiers when they provide little (if any) information on what they need in an amplifier. Hell, even when people are kind enough to ask for some information to customize their recomendations to the OP's needs, the OP just completely ignores them? Perhaps it is time for a questionaire/sticky? Before someone asks for recomendations, there are certain questions which need to be answered, otherwise all the OP can expect is the, "I have it, it's perfect for me, so it is perfect for you" type answer.

    Proposed Questionaire:

    How much would you like to spend?

    What's the absolutely most you will spend?

    How many years have you played guitar?

    Do you seek tone quality or versatility?

    What is your primary guitar (include pup type and configuration)?

    What style(s) of music do you primarily play?

    What one guitarist do you wish to emulate?

    Do you prefer to plug straight in, or will you be using effects?
    * If you plug straight in, you will likely require 2 or more channels
    * If you use effects, you may prefer an effects loop

    What will be the primary use of the amp?
    bedroom/living room
    jam with friends (guitars only)
    jam with friends (guitars, bass, drums, etc.)
    gigs (small venues)
    gigs (large venues, is mic'ing available?)

    Do you prefer a combo or head/cabinet (and why)?

    What amplifier(s) do you have/had and why do you want a change?

    Please list five amps (minimum) that you have researched (if you can't do this, you're not serious)

    What did you like about them?
    What did you not like about them?
     
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  2. b-squared

    b-squared Banned

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    Very well done...I edited the title of the thread and stuck it...

    BB
     
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  3. acstorfer

    acstorfer Senior Member

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    Wow, that was fast! Thanks BB, I was hoping it would be stickied, now let's just hope people read it first.
     
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  4. >Photi G<

    >Photi G< Senior Member

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    Finally! Nice work Ac! We needed one of these for a while. Now, we just need to make sure people read the stickies! :thumb:
     
  5. mono

    mono Senior Member

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    Great idea! We must all try and direct those who need to read this to come here :)
     
  6. brianugly

    brianugly Senior Member

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    Lets sticky this! Edit--it is. Nice!
     
  7. Barker

    Barker Senior Member

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    This is a good thing! I will be purchasing a new amp in the near future, and will want some input from the MLP lads.

    I will use this to help myself, and those whom I ask for help.... :thumb:

    Cheers,

    Barker
     
  8. AngryHatter

    AngryHatter Senior Member

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    As the users age another aspect of concern is, "How much amp are you willing to lug around?"
    A gigging guitarist that has to load his own stuff will become very weight conscious.
    ;)
     
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  9. Big Swifty

    Big Swifty Junior Member

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    Amen to that one, AngryHatter!
     
  10. Mookakian

    Mookakian Senior Member

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    Great thread. Thankyou:thumb:

    A few aspects i hadn't considered are listed here
     
  11. jeremy9222

    jeremy9222 Senior Member

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    How much would you like to spend? hopefully under a grand, just broke the bank on a new git.

    What's the absolutely most you will spend? 1200

    How many years have you played guitar? going on 5 years

    Do you seek tone quality or versatility? tone quality, lil bit of versatility would be nice though

    What is your primary guitar (include pup type and configuration)? Gibson Custom ES339, HH, 57 classics. ( usually a fender player, my 2nd is a tele )

    What style(s) of music do you primarily play? contemporary blues, rock and roww

    What one guitarist do you wish to emulate? John Mayer

    Do you prefer to plug straight in, or will you be using effects? straight in !
    * If you plug straight in, you will likely require 2 or more channels
    * If you use effects, you may prefer an effects loop

    What will be the primary use of the amp? small medium sized gigs ( possible micing )
    bedroom/living room
    jam with friends (guitars only)
    jam with friends (guitars, bass, drums, etc.)
    gigs (small venues)
    gigs (large venues, is mic'ing available?)

    Do you prefer a combo or head/cabinet (and why)? combo. for portability

    What amplifier(s) do you have/had and why do you want a change? marshall solid states, a randall solid state and a tube peavey head (XXX). I want a change because im looking more into clean boutique tones rather than high gain and tubes are a must.

    Please list five amps (minimum) that you have researched (if you can't do this, you're not serious)
    Voz AC15
    Marshall Haze 40
    Marshall MA combo
    A Blackstar combo ( the name escapes me )
    Something Orange maybe ?

    What did you like about them? Tubes are a necessity, and i like the option of 2 channels and channel and master volumes. Pristine fender like cleans .. i play mostly a clean tone on the verge of breaking up. and the option of rocking some kiss or gnr when requested.
    What did you not like about them? lack of information online, and lack of testers in stores. id love some opinions from you guys ! :)
     
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  12. acstorfer

    acstorfer Senior Member

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    Hi Jeremy,

    You'll probably get a better response by starting a new thread with the info you supplied.
     
  13. jeremy9222

    jeremy9222 Senior Member

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    thank you kindly sir, I will take my efforts elsewhere, good day. :)
     
  14. tomatzcz

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  15. wudstoc

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    I am new to guitars and this forum as well. The reasons I use this forum for is the expertise of the people that have been here and gone around the block. I find that asking people here is better than going to a sales guy who works on commission.
    My answers to your questions
    How much would you like to spend? 700.00
    What's the absolutely most you will spend? 700.00
    How many years have you played guitar? Years how about 2 months
    Do you seek tone quality or versatility? Both
    What is your primary guitar (include pup type and configuration)? Les Paul Traditional Pro
    What style(s) of music do you primarily play? I like 50&#8217;s 60&#8217;s 70&#8217;s 80&#8217;s Rock and all Blues
    What one guitarist do you wish to emulate? None
    Do you prefer to plug straight in, or will you be using effects? Right now straight in, in time maybe effects
    * If you plug straight in, you will likely require 2 or more channels
    * If you use effects, you may prefer an effects loop
    What will be the primary use of the amp?
    Bedroom/living room (yes)
    Jam with friends (guitars only) (yes)
    Jam with friends (guitars, bass, drums, etc.) (No Plans
    Gigs (small venues) nope
    gigs (large venues, is mic'ing available?) Never
    Do you prefer a combo or head/cabinet (and why)? I am new and don&#8217;t have a clue.
    Since I am just learning it&#8217;s hard to go and research since most of what they can or can&#8217;t do is over my head, not to mention i just suck right now at playing, hence why I ask for help here. Just for the record I am serious, So how about a little help?
     
  16. callumsa23

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    How much would you like to spend? £70 max


    How many years have you played guitar? 4

    Do you seek tone quality or versatility? not sure

    What is your primary guitar (include pup type and configuration)? 04 les paul

    What style(s) of music do you primarily play? rock and roll and bit of blues

    What one guitarist do you wish to emulate? slash

    Do you prefer to plug straight in, or will you be using effects? not to bothered
    * If you plug straight in, you will likely require 2 or more channels
    * If you use effects, you may prefer an effects loop

    What will be the primary use of the amp? large venues with micing possable
    bedroom/living room
    jam with friends (guitars only)
    jam with friends (guitars, bass, drums, etc.)
    gigs (small venues)
    gigs (large venues, is mic'ing available?)


    What amplifier(s) do you have/had and why do you want a change?
    prime rg-10 :( crappy

    Please list five amps (minimum) that you have researched (if you can't do this, you're not serious)Line 6 Spider IV 35 Watt
    this one ( 35W Electric Guitar Amp with Reverb at Gear4Music.com )
    its got to be about 35 watt
     
  17. callumsa23

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    couldent find any more cheap pls help
     
  18. bfcg

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    How many years have you been playing??
    What does that have to do with anything?
    Do you gig out or is it a practice amp? < this is a relevant question.
    You could get a really great sounding amp that is 5 watts and will blow your windows out if you need it to. You won't spend a fortune on it and they have great resale value should you decide to upgrade in the future.
    Look at how many people are taking a beating on their JMP's DSL's and JCM's because now they decide that they wanted a smaller amp after all.
    You guys that want a great tone with saturated gain when you need it that won't get you evicted or drive you broke, look at the BlackHearts, Orange Tiny Terror and even the Epiphone valve Jr. just to name a few.

    :laugh2:I just started playing and I want to sound like Slash. I also want the whole town to know that I just started playing so I bought a Jubilee. Maybe I could reach the next town, let me try the volume on 2.:laugh2:

    Why can't a guy enter a forum and say" I am looking for an amp. I have x amount and I like the sound of tubes" and get an reply and maybe a discussion. Thats what a forum is isn't it?
    What he gets is "here go fill out this form and have a seat on the group W bench" with all the father rapers.
    Did somebody get sick of these types of threads and forgot how not to click on something?
     
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    :lol: :naughty:

    Ya know. I tend to agree with ya there.

    Go grab a C5.
     
  20. acstorfer

    acstorfer Senior Member

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    Hi and welcome

    There are two reasons I threw in the how long you been playing question. First, beginners quit all the time, even if a beginner sticks with it, which is great, it isn't a good idea to spend a lot of money on gear. Even though, a lot of money is relative. Secondly, newbies have a lot to learn, so if a responder sees someone knew, they will know to explain the technical jargon and not assume how much someone knows.

    The reason the questionnaire was created was because so many people would start a thread, I have X dollars, what amp should I get. Kinda vague and impossible to make a good recommendation. Usually all that happened was people saying, buy the amp I have, it's the best. That would be fine, but because amps vary so much, what might be ideal for one person, can be overkill, limited, too much distortion, not enough distortion, too loud, too quiet, not enough break up, too much break up, and so on. The questionnaire was a way to really see what the potential buyer wants so they can be given the best options.

    If you dont want to fill it out, cool, free country, however see what you get. You'll get two pages of people saying buy the amp I have, even if the amp they have is not at all what's best for the person asking.
     
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