Possible 58-59 Les Paul No Serial No.

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  1. bossaddict

    bossaddict Premium Member

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    Paul Stanley?

    EDIT: :doh: Too slow. ;)
     
  2. Paulg2uk

    Paulg2uk Senior Member

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    Nope. Keep guessing!
     
  3. LeftyF2003

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    John Entwistle?
     
  4. Paulg2uk

    Paulg2uk Senior Member

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    Nope
     
  5. r9in09

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    Clapton
     
  6. Paulg2uk

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    No afraid not. Would of been nice though if it was.
     
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    Gary Grainger?
     
  9. Paulg2uk

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    Nope and Nope. I'm just gonna go ahead and tell you all.

    Wait for it

    Marc Bolan
     
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  10. kdm

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    it is maybe his refinished goldtop....:hmm:
     
  11. Paulg2uk

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    If you look the finish you can see some black flicks of paint underneath the sunburst. And on the edge of one of pics its going slightly black.
     
  12. LeftyF2003

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    Do you have some documentation that backs that up? If you have something like a picture of him playing it where you can match the top grain that would help. If it really was his guitar and you can prove it that could be worth some $$. On the other hand the issue I think we all have with it is it doesn't really look like it came out of the Gibson factory (though it was re-necked at some point which is further throwing identification off). In any event it looks to be a nice guitar. How does it sound?
     
  13. Greco

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    The Good:
    1. The body is not a million miles off maybe, perhaps, being 50's Gibson.
    2. Red paint under the black (if original) could point to 58-60.
    3. Some good looking hardware.
    4. Refinished black - could be Beano! :)

    The Bad:
    1. Renecked & over sprayed black. Possible neck angle issues.
    2. Hardware may not be original to the guitar.

    It might add some value to let us have a good long look at all the hardware (pickups, rings, etc) and provide the pot codes??
     
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  14. Bill Hicklin

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    To me, for what it's worth, the control cavity has all the hallmarks of being legit, as does the neck p/u pocket although it's been f^cked with. The neck has been replaced, bad from tenon to headstock. (Keep in mind that my two cents ain't worth a plug nickel.....)

    Before it was black, was this one definitely a burst? Could it have been a 57-58 goldtop?
     
  15. chasenblues

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    Well there's pic's of him with a LP with what looks like similar snake bite holes from a Bigsby. Don't know enough about his stuff to know if this is the one that ended up with the Custom neck.

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  16. kdm

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    in this thread are some pics..maybe its the same guitar...:hmm:
     
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  17. Greco

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    Snakebite, neck smashed off (as evidenced in the neck cavity), similar top colour, refinshed black (as Marc's supposedly was after being stolen). There always seem to be more questions than answers with Bolan's Les Paul(s) & there are almost no photos around.

    There's at least one photo where it had a Fender style 4-bolt neck plate to hold a LP Custom neck on, and his main guitar seems to have cracked between the bridge knobs or at least has a very strong dark streak there. The question is did he have more than one LP in a similar style?
     
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  18. dangerdog

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    I am going to go out on a limb here but my think that is Bolan's guitar.
     
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  19. RAG7890

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    My thinking is we need to Eric's input in this Thread ASAP.

    So many things are wrong here. So many things look really old (Vintage).

    So many things are changed so that it may well match the story of Bolan's Guitar.

    Since it is in England there are a few people that can examine this Guitar & comment further. One I know is completely trustworthy & is not involved in the buying & selling of Guitars. He'd be the person I would talk to.

    Great story so far & interesting, regardless of what it is or isn't.

    Would love to hear Eric's comments on this.

    :cheers2:
     
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  20. dangerdog

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    If you look you can find another with some of the same tells. Assuming the OP isn't trying to take anyone for a ride that guitar looks very much like one of Bolans. Problem is the picture quality is not too good.

    this one has a pock mark by the control switch in the same spot...not sure if it is exactly the same spot though...camera angles are strange.

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    Always nice to hear what EE has to say but if we can find a good picture of MB holding that guitar it won't take a vintage Gibson expert to tell if is the same one. Anyone with a decent eye for wood grain and wear marks will be able to do that.

    Disclaimer: I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination on vintage Gibsons or MB. Just a T Rex fan whose imagination may be running awayswith him....who needs to be working....not investigating.
     
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