Playing for 12+ years.. I still suck.

Discussion in 'Guitar Lessons' started by Destroythevoice, Dec 2, 2017.

  1. Al Walker

    Al Walker Senior Member

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    I still suck after 50 years of playing, but, I still like to play.
     
  2. penguinchit

    penguinchit Senior Member

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    This is why I play at church. When I started a few years ago, I was mainly playing power chords. Now, I do tons of arpeggios and some intro solo stuff. Playing with other people help your skill level skyrocket. Not necessarily just other guitar players, but other musicians.

    I also like playing at church because it's illegal to tell me I suck.
     
  3. Destroythevoice

    Destroythevoice Senior Member

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    Thanks everyone so far for the overwhelming stir of comments so far! Its been really helpful. Definitely planning to try some of these recommendations as soon as I am able with free time. Ive been practicing about 2 or 3 hours a day lately when I get home from work and skip out on my gaming sessions now and then due to the fact that I dont want to get sucked in and really want to get better.
     
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    artis_xe Christopher Premium Member

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    this is an excellent point

    and there are many people that can say " I'd like to be able to play guitar " __ without considering the amount of trial and error that goes into it . and you'll learn much more from your mistakes , than anything else

    it's just noise , and that's all that it has to be . if you're a perfectionist , that's going to be a roadblock . if you're going to worry about what others would think of your noise . another roadblock


    and TrueFire is a big help . I only joined this last April . wish I had done it sooner . I signed up for $99usd for the year . when I renew , it will probably be $199usd __ but worth the money
     
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    artis_xe Christopher Premium Member

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    and Mal might hate me for saying this :laugh2:

    but forget about your gaming . not now and then . just forget about it ( it's a waste of time ) . and if you're watching porn on a regular basis __ another waste of time . these things won't make you grow ( maybe the porn will :naughty: ) as a person . and they'll steal from your practice time

    then again . so will guitar forums . . .
     
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  6. Jymbopalyse

    Jymbopalyse Senior Member

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    Thanks for this !!

    I feel like I could have written the OP.
    I have learned to play guitar by ear and feel and am just NOW trying to learn about the guitar and a little about music theory.

    Last month I started working with the pentatonic scale as a starter point.
    But I tried playing the scale in the same key as the chord progression. Just wasn't sounding like I was expecting it to.

    When I get home today, I'm going to try your trick for finding the key to scale with. :cheers2:
     
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  7. Jymbopalyse

    Jymbopalyse Senior Member

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    Great post.
    I am in a similar boat and have already learned something from your thread.

    :cheers:
     
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  8. Malikon

    Malikon ゴジラの復活 V.I.P. Member

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    You just have to make the time to do everything,.................................including yourself. :D
     
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    You'll notice that the notes in A minor pentatonic are the same as C major pentatonic, just rearranged differently. The minor is more prevalent in rock/blues, whereas (don't quote me on this) the major would be used more in country, at least from what my Dad told me, I am not a country player so I can't go off experience, just off what I've been told.
     
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    Is it bad that I also dont know theory? And have always been self-taught with guitar pro tabs but typically by ear before I discovered the power of the internet?
     
  11. penguinchit

    penguinchit Senior Member

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    That's my downfall. Destiny 2 has me hooked.

    After 10+ years of playing, I'm just now starting to understand some minimal theory stuff. Mainly because I want to know how and why some of the stuff I do works. Also, because I want to be able to purposefully do more of the stuff that works. But knowing the fretboard is huge in that process.
     
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    I tell people I'm playing avant-garde jazz, no matter what I'm playing. There are no WRONG notes in avant-garde jazz.
     
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  13. Jymbopalyse

    Jymbopalyse Senior Member

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    Bad. Heck no. I know nothing.
    I'm just learning the names of the open strings. :facepalm:

    I have an interesting "feel" for playing improvised slow lead stuff. I have sliding and bending strings, half and full steps, down to an art. If I hit a "bad" note, I just bend it till it's not. It actually works pretty well with slow playing.

    I'm hoping (I'm pretty sure it will) learning some scales and theory will make it less of a random procedure. :fingersx:
     
  14. Thumpalumpacus

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    Theory is useful but not necessary. It is a set of labels we use to talk about music, and frame scores by key, time sig, harmony, and melody. But you don't need formal knowledge of it in order to make great music.

    it's sure helped me along the way, though, and I highly recommend anyone who doesn't know it to at least learn the basics. It made it much easier for me to identify what was going on with a song, and therefore much easier to learn it.
     
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    Rarely a single day in the past seven years that I have not played one of my guitars. I love it but I stink. I can't play a whole song. I have zero musical talent. I can play about a hundred riffs but that's about it. Still, I enjoy making noise and occasionally someone will say "hey I know that song." At my age just enjoying the noodling will have to be enough.
     
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    I was the same way for years. Decided that I wasn't putting in the time practicing scales and learning theory. Now I spend at least two hours a day on just exercises. And relative to where I was, I'm way better than I used to be. Keep plugging away and you'll get there.

    Dale
     
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    lunchbox Senior Member

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    Just concentrate on rhythm. It's 90% of the song anyway. Not everyone has the coordination to shred; I know I don't. But I am a great, far above average rock rhythm player that can play some well-fitted, blues scale based leads that work for the song. Shredding is not required.

    If you're a great rhythm player, you'll be the unsung hero of the band.
     
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    WhiteEpiLP Senior Member

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    Five years in for me and in terms of theory i know nothing. But I've done a jam session almost every weekend for the last 3 years with a full band (we arent really a band but 2 guitars, bass and drums so we got the bases covered).
    I started with a few songs we all agreed to learn, easy stuff like tye black keys and any 3 chord songs. Eventually i was learning Zepplin and Chilli Peppers, now im to the point where we can do free form blues jams.
    There is no way I'd be playing 12 bar blues riffs and solos without playing with other musicians. I consider myself lucky cause i hooked up with a great guitarist in my friend Dave, he is very sympathetic to the jam and also plays slap and pop bass just like Flea. Having a better musician who is willing to play to a lower level for the sake of the group is amazing, no one likes a show off.
    So i guess what I'm getting at is find some people to jam with and learn some songs together. There is no feeling quite like when you actually play a whole song with other musicians.
     
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    Been playing for 50 years, in that time i've drifted anywheres from playing decent to extreme suck.
    the key is to keep learning, play all the time, learn new things to stay interested, & when you think you got it
    figured out, have the sense to know you know nothing.
     
  20. russbryant

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    Look for the "The Speed Learning Method" on Claus Levin's site. I found it yesterday and watched the videos (all talk - no guitar but very good) and also the free ones about Alternate Picking. The guy is high energy and is a shredder (among other things) but what he says will work for any style.

    http://www.clauslevin.com/free-courses.php

    I also recommend joining Jamplay. My first year is coming to an end in a few days and I will re-join.

    Lastly get Rocksmith Remastered. Since you are a gamer you will probably really like it. I am not a gamer at all and it is really, really good. There is a huge megathread for Rocksmith here on this forum.

     
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