~Pickup Magnet Differences~

Discussion in 'Pickups' started by joek86, Apr 23, 2011.

  1. joek86

    joek86 Senior Member

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    I have been using A5 magneted pickups almost exclusively until today. I pulled out a guitar loaded with A2's. The guitar sounded stronger, thicker, greasier with less stuff going on and more fundimental tone. My question for guys that know their pups and mags is this; is this characteristic of the difference in these mags or the guitars that I was playing?

    FYI, The A5 pups have more output than the A2's. Both are top notch boutique built pups.

    ~Joe
     
  2. GuitarToneFreak

    GuitarToneFreak Senior Member

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    Wait until a winder chimes in for a better definition, but from what I understand Alnico 2 is more "smokey" and full than A5. A5 tends to be a stronger, higher output pickup, so your description of A2 compared to A5 sounds accurate to me :dude:
     
  3. captcoolaid

    captcoolaid Senior Member

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    A2s are smoother, A5s have more mids. The A5 has a stronger guass. Just because a pup has an A2 or A5 does not mean it is gonna be a higher out put or higher dc pup. They are used for completely different reasons. The mags will drastically change the overall shape of the pickups tone a great deal. Think of it this way same wind different mag different tone.
     
  4. joek86

    joek86 Senior Member

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    What are the trademark differences in tone between the two...i'd like to compare it with what I am hearing. It should guide me as to whether I should try a set with different mags or not.


    ~Joe
     
  5. captcoolaid

    captcoolaid Senior Member

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    A2 has a smoother tone to in general and an A5 has more mids and bite.
     
  6. Zhangliqun

    Zhangliqun Senior Member

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    A5 has more UPPER mids. The chewy mid-mids are lacking. It's a lot like taking an A2 and cranking up bass and treble/upper mids but the mid-mids (the ones we crave) get left behind. Basically A5 is kind of scooped. That can be good or bad, it all depends on the context.
     
  7. joek86

    joek86 Senior Member

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    Thanks guys!
     
  8. BillB1960

    BillB1960 Senior Member

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    My favorite pickups from boutique as well as major manufactureres use either Alnico 2 or Alnico 4 magnets although not every Alnico 2 I've tried has been stellar. Ex: I love Classic 57 p'ups and they have Alnico 2s but the Burstbucker 1 & 2 also have A2s and I'm not a fan of those. The GuitarForce LOTBs that I adore in my G0 have A4s.
     
  9. rocknhorse1

    rocknhorse1 Senior Member

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    I have heard a lot of people say they like the A4 mags. From what I have heard they have a push in the lower mids, like under 600hz. Does this seem right to you Bill? I have never played them so I don't know for sure, just going by what I have heard in demos.
     
  10. BillB1960

    BillB1960 Senior Member

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    I'd say that accurately describes the LOTBs. They have kind a bowling pin shaped kind of sound if that makes sense. :hmm:
     
  11. 5F6-A

    5F6-A Senior Member

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    don't forget AIV...
     
  12. LtKojak

    LtKojak Senior Member

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    I consider the A4 mag the perfect mag for a neck p'up. It's got sizzle, but without ever being boomy nor shrill, as A5 does, and you can make it sound both vintage and modern, depending on your rig's EQ. It's got a polite but commanding tone and kind of a flat EQ. It pairs beautifully with either an UnOriented A5 (UOA5) for a vintage vibe or my favorite, A8, for the bridge spot.

    HTH,
     
  13. 5F6-A

    5F6-A Senior Member

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    interesting approach.... ;)
     

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