Orville by Gibson

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  1. GammyBird

    GammyBird Senior Member

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    Hey guys. I've have noticed recently that there are a few OBG's showing up here and there that were not produced in 88 or 89 but later dates. I was under the impression that OBG's were only produced in the first 2 years. I know that the 88's and 89's have Gibson pickups. Do these later models have Gibson pickups in them?
     
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    OBG were produced until 1993/4 or thereabouts. All had American pickups. The thing people don't realize is the 1990's period OBG standard has 490 pickups and the more expensive ones with the fretbinding or the reissues had the 57 classic style pickups. Most people say that all the pickups were 57 style. I learned this from a long thread here with orville in the title. :naughty:

    The Japanese market orville 59 Reissue was almost the same thing and that was produced until about 1996-8. Probably nitro was the only difference along with the Jap style PAF pickups and wiring, which are still quite good.
     
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    ObGs were made till early '95. Orvilles were produced till '98.
     
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    Were they made at FugiGen up to 94? Seems like the later model OBG's I've seen were made in the Terada factory.
     
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    There's very much contradicting info out there. I think this is the most accurate timeline.

    StateMaster - Encyclopedia: Orville by Gibson

    Notice that the first mention of FujiGen is in 1993.
    I've heard others say that FujiGen started making Orvilles/ObGs in 1990.
    In any case, they were only produced by Terada in the beginning.
    Bothe made Orvilles until they were rebranded to Epiphone in 1998.
    In the Epiphone Japan era, FujiGen produced LPs and SGs and Terada produced the archtops.
     
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    yeah, the way it was told to me Orville production turned into Epiphone Japan production in '98 at the Fujigen factory.
     
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    but then i'm a complete newcomer to all this stuff.
     
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    Oh, and no matter what you should come across online, Orvilles/ObGs were never produced in Korea. :thumb:
     
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    Thanks Shifty. Now I go on the hunt for an OBG Goldtop!!!:applause::applause:
     
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    Well, then - if they're not 57s, do we conclude that they're 490s? What else was available at the time?
     
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    As far as I know, the majority ObGs came with '57s. sometimes they came with original Bill Lawrence HB-R/HB-L or 490s.
     
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    What are these that are in the Orville Custom that I bought from Ole Lefty?

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    If they're stock, they should be Gibson '57 Classics. Not sure if the bridge is a Classic+, though.
     
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    US Patent No. 2,737,842 was granted to Gibson Inc. on Mar. 13, 1956 for an application filed on July 9, 1952. The invention in this patent is Les Paul's combined trapeze tailpiece and wraparound bridge. It's funny that this patent no. is stamped on ObG pick-ups, when the patent has nothing to do with any kind of pick-ups.
    The famous "Patent Applied For" is US 2,896,491, filed on June 22, 1955 and granted on July 28, 1959.
     
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    Gibson PAF Humbuckers Pickups Patent Applied For Pickups M69 M-69 pickup rings - Vintage Guitars Info

    I think they're 490s.
    '57s have the "Patent Applied For" decal and Bill Lawrence pickups sure don't have a Gibson patent number.
    I think they just went on with what they started in mid-'62, on the 490s.
     

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