Nitro Chipping/Peeling off Neck

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  1. Fuzznutz

    Fuzznutz Senior Member

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    Guys - What are your thoughts on this situation. I purchased this R9 new in early April and over the last month the nitro/clear started chipping off the bottom of the neck at the front edge of the binding. Can't really feel it while playing, but concerned now that it is starting to peel/chip beyond binding and into the wood.

    I've seen pics of heavily aged lesters and many have large amounts of nitro/clear purposely removed from neck. So, not sure if my situation is something to be concerned about.

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    On this pic, looks like the Custom Shop taped nut diagonally before spraying. I would think they would spray the whole side of nut or tape it all off.
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    Ok... A couple of gratuitous R9 porn shots. Here she is basking in the Oahu sun.

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  2. The Wedge

    The Wedge Banned

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    Is this guitar heavily aged?
     
  3. Fuzznutz

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    No. Just standard factory VOS (not a gloss guy).
     
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    it is now.....:)

    Is it a 13' ?

    If you bought it new its under warranty It should not be doing that. I would email Gibson and see what they say. Is there a gibson repair in your area?

    Real nice one too!
     
  5. Fuzznutz

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    "It is now"... good one! Yes, it's a '13, purchased in April. No, there is no Gibson repair in Hawaii. There is one authorized dealer, but it's in name only as they cater to foreign tourists and have virtually no Gibson inventory.
     
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    Looks to me like they forgot to scrape the binding on this one. Return the guitar and get a new one!
     
  7. Fuzznutz

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  8. Sct13

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    yea, you have several choices really, Keep it and forget about it and hope for the best (prolly what I would do....)

    Find a repair "Clinic" on the west coast somewhere and send it (repair on Gibson) but then might as well send it to Nashville at that point,

    send it to Kim at HM, he will make a monster out of it. Not free however.

    Sell it to me...where I will do either one or three of the above selections....:)

    take it back and get another as the last poster just said...

    Fix it yourself...probably the least favored unless you know your stuff....

    let us know what you wind up doing....but definatley send an Email to the guys at the Custom shop, we pay too much for crap like this to happen...
     
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  9. Fuzznutz

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    Sct - Thanks. I'll email the Custom Shop and see what they say. From what I've heard they are fairly receptive... and it is still under warranty!

    Axe - Don't what to return it for something new. I've already made the mind-body connection with this beauty :naughty:. I play everyday and I haven't touched another one of my guitars (except the acoustics) since getting her. Absolutely love the R9. Plays far better than anything I have. The neck and fret combination is incredible... Love it. Gibson Custom Shop is killing it (the spray job on my neck not withstanding :cool:)

    I wish I would have pulled the trigger sooner on these Historics. Starting to thin the heard now for another.
     
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    If you bought it new from an Authorized Gibson dealer theoretically there's no time limit on the warranty but the sooner the better. If you bought it somewhere other than an AD then you could be hurting.
     
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    I think it's normal, will happen. Guitars won't stay flawless for their entire life. Just enjoy it. That top is too die for.
     
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  12. lewis_grey

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    My R9 has a little of that going on, it took a while to happen though and mine sees a lot of action.

    If you play it wear is going to happen sooner or later so my advice is forget about it and enjoy your beautiful instrument safe in the knowledge that if you really wanted to, it can be repaired.
     
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  13. LP_NEWFAG

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    junk. send it to me :D
     
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  14. Todd68

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    You live in Hawaii. What more do you want out of life? :)

    I wouldn't worry about it. Nice LP btw!
     
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    This isn't going to really hurt anything. But, if it concerns you, lacquer is very easy to fix. A good repairman should be able to take care of this without you having to ship the guitar off. Maybe Gibson would authorize a repairman in your area to perform the work?

    Beautiful guitar BTW!
     
  16. IRussell

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    My R8 is doing that at frets 12-14. I can only assume it's because of playing and bending in the E box with ring(s) and trying to reach the wound strings when that far up the neck? I've been playing this R8 a lot over the past 5-6 years... Doesn't bother me in the least. Then again, this isn't a brand new guitar and mine is simply play wear.

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    I have owned several Historic Les Pauls (currently only an R4) and have never seen that before.

    However, if you love the guitar just keep it and enjoy it. If it were me I would keep it.

    Nice guitar, BTW.
     
  18. Sct13

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    I know its Calypso but....."Don't worry be happy"

    Umm Do you wear a ring on your left hand, because that can start it...:hmm:
     
  19. Dr. Brown

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    The diagonal nut spray is normal. The finish flaking off is not. You should NOT let this slide on a flagship guitar that Gibson charge flagship money for. Even on a cheap guitar this should not happen.
     
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  20. Jabberwocky

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    I take it as a given that when I play my R9s as they should be played, that is eventually going to happen. Nitro cracks and flakes off when enough abrasive action takes place.

    That is the nature of nitrocellulose with little to no plasticizers. I thought everybody wanted that. When the nitro cracks and flakes off now, it is considered a defect on a flagship guitar and to please send it back for another? That is why Gibson went to plasticizers in its nitro: To reduce such warranty returns. And now the brigade goes: Too much tone-robbing plasticizers in nitro that does not check.

    This is exactly what happens on a "historically accurate" nitro finish. Now it is considered a defect?

    So, guys, plasticizers or no plasticizers? I can't blame Gibson for not knowing what its fans really want. Gibson cannot win this.

    PS Cheap guitars do not do that because thick polyester does not crack nor check. Ironic, isn't it? If one is afraid of guitars ageing through being played, buy cheap polyestered guitars.
     
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