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Discussion in 'Gibson Les Pauls' started by Axiomatik, Oct 3, 2017.
That looks genuine (at least from the pics)
I love that colour
User uploaded more pics. Is the attached pickguard correct? Also the serial number is 160127699. Called Gibson and confirmed that it is in fact a 2016 LP standard. Is $1615 shipped a good price, it is more than I want to spend, but you guys know how these things go.
That's a gorgeous looking finish. My first thought was you could get a LP studio for half your original outlay tho.. but if you are after the looker, you have found something very similar to your original purchase but the real thing. Is it within a distance you can try it out before buying? That would be ideal.
Thank God for that. Cheers.
...of course I did buy them used
Frets have nibs (the binding covers the frets), bridge posts look good.
Locking Grovers? NICE.
Amazing how many pawn shops don't have a clue or purposely rip people off. At least most of the stuff they sell is junk anyhow. Very few "gems" out there anymore.
I'm thinking this particular pawn shop owner knew it was fake. Who would sell a real Gibson Les Paul like this for that cheap? 2 minutes of research would show that it was worth a lot more if real. Stay away from that place!!
I'm not convinced the shop knew, seeing as he paid $1000, and the one he's looking at now is $1600 that's not a massive difference (for a pawn shop) but I could be way wrong. If I am, then the shop being interested in what makes it a fake, becomes even more devious, as it looks like they gleaning info on how to make their future fakers more knowledgable.
I think 1 thing that will be telling is whether or not the shop puts it back up for sale
I read something very interesting about the nibs recently, as I have a sheraton with nibs.
It was a guy who had a particular playing style which made it impossible to own a guitar with one, as he wore the nib away, and his top string would get stuck in the gap between fret end and nib, he was convinced it was a corner cutting activity on behalf of Gibson.. in order to not finish the fret ends properly. Whereas I saw it as a luxurious finish..
Since then I have found out that Gibson did stop the nibs as a cost cutting exercise, and then brought them back after a couple of years, after much complainin from customers..
That's really interesting. Like You, I have always thought of them as more of a luxury finish type thing. They do present a problem when it comes to refrets, but it can be done
My read on the situation is that the pawn shop manager suspected it was fake because he was able to buy it for cheap, but didn't know how to prove it.
Yes, it is a mission to re-fret,and repeat the nibs, and sometimes people get rid of them during that process, in favour of frets over binding. I guess if it gets in the way of playing, that would pose a problem.
As an interesting side read I've posted this link to the forum regarding the nibs issue. . Sorry if it hijacks or in any way is a breach of rules (please remove if so)
Yes, I guess he would have paid out a fraction of the $$$'s to whoever brought it in. I'm glad it got resolved, and you got your money back. All the best with your future purchase. I'm keen to find out what you get.
This is so naive, but I sure wish it could be like "Pawn Stars" in the "real world" in which authenticity could be established with experts.
By the way, I never welcomed you Axiomatik, so
You Gem, I like you. I'm not sure whether or not I ever welcomed you, but in case not,
The one on Reverb is real. And good looking.
You Gem, I like you. I'm not sure whether or not I ever welcomed you, but in case not, [/QUOTE]
Thank you, I feel welcomed.
I'm seeing it as £1235.00 now pre shipping (reverb converted it to UK price) it's been reduced once. Im also seeing it has an offer on it, have you made am offer? I'm sure someone more local than me will tell you if is a reasonable price with shipping at some point soon. Good luck.
I didn't make the guy a formal offer, but I did message him. Turns our he's located about 2.5 hours away, so I asked if there was a discount if I picked up. He said:
"The only discount would be the $40 shipping charge. This thing is already priced at least $100 cheaper than any other 2016 Standard T on reverb. I wouldn't be selling it that cheap (or at all) if I didn't really need the money."
It seems like he's pretty firm on the 1575 price. The majority of 2016 Les Paul standards are fetching around 2k on Reverb. If it's a great deal I can jump on it, but I almost would prefer to purchase off this forum and support the community. However I don't see anything [currently] that strikes my fancy (LP with a contemporary finish like blue, trans black...).
I just realized mine is prolly like that too! Boy, color me red!
Here's a back shot of another 1982, (not mine).