NGD: Epi Firebird VII '99

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  1. lesuedois

    lesuedois Junior Member

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    Hi all,
    NGD yesterday, got hold of a Epi Firebird VII antique ivory from '99 (Unsung factory). Apart from a small dent at the headstock that somebody tried to repair with what looks like spackel or chemical wood, she is more or less minty.

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    Does anyone know the color code for Epi's antique ivory color? Thinking of doing some trial fixes on the headstock dent.

    Anyway - what surprises me is the quality of the pickups. I've got a Gibson FB V as well (2014) in which I put Mojotone's Johnny Winter pups -- the Epi stock ones aren't too far behind IMO. Different, but both with a lot of character.

    She's pretty on the outside, what about the inside? Well...

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    That's about the worst I've ever seen. Strangely it all works and it's totally hum free, the wiring (with a stock epi three-pos switch) is: up = neck and middle, center = all three, down = middle and bridge. Is that stock wiring for VIIs or have some previous owner changed that? (Also note how somebody had a short-post output jack and decided to carve away some wood to solve the problem... yikes.)

    I also found what I suppose is treble bleeds on the three volume pots. Has anyone seen these before? This is not stock right? (Barely noticeable blue blob lying on the lugs).

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    I guess I gotta redo the wiring at some point and repair the carved-away wood in the cavity. Don't think I can sleep knowing about this... I tried to see what cap is used for the tone, but so many wires in the way its impossible to see... :wow:

    Anyway - here's my mod/improvement plan:
    • new nut (thinking Tusq XL 6010 00, would that be ok?)
    • fix dent in headstock (if I can find the color code)
    • maybe new gold roller bridge (what's the best option for metric/epi posts?)
    • get CTS TVT pots, a Dijon cap and some vintage wire and rewire everything (and not forget to use treble bleeds if thats whats actually on here, because I dont want to change the sound). If somebody can point me to a wiring scheme for the setup, I'd be deeply grateful (up = neck and middle, center = all three, down = middle and bridge). I'm not gonna try to reverse engineer the given solution... :D

    Sound about right?
     
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  2. paruwi

    paruwi Kraut-Rocker Super Mod Premium Member

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    Congrats on a 'rare bird'

    :applause::applause:
     
  3. charlie chitlins

    charlie chitlins Senior Member

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    Atsa nice-a spaghetti! Some creative wiring there. Hard to imagine no 1 pickup only switch positions. My old FBIII is bridge/bridge-middle/neck. I changed the middle position to neck-middle. Much fatter...but that's with P90s.
    Cool geetar. I'm a sucker for the flash of 3-pickup models. I still kinda miss the traditional neck/bridge sound, though.
     
  4. Slick

    Slick Senior Member

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    Very nice, congrats :thumb:
     
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    Family Man Senior Member

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    That's flippin awesome. Congrats.
     
  6. lesuedois

    lesuedois Junior Member

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    Right, well in this setup the middle pickup can always be taken out, but only by turning the pot to 0. I guess one thing to think about is whether it would be good to have a no-load pot for the middle pup volume.

    When you rewired your FBIII Charlie, did you use a particular schematic? I am still on the lookout for a good rewiring scheme (that doesn't use push/pull pots)...

    And, has anyone seen the blue blob thingies that I have on the volume pots before (see pic above)? I am wondering what they are, beginning to suspect they may not be treble bleeds.
     
  7. TM1

    TM1 Senior Member

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    At's nice!! I had a 2004 Epi FB VII. I installed a set of real reflector knobs, Banjo-type Kluson tuners and a set of Duncan Antiqutys mini's... oh and a real Gibson TRC.. I had it for a while until I came across a 2004 Gibson Firebird VII in Copper Mist. The Epiphone was near the quality of the Gibson. The Gibson has an Ebony fingerboard. The Epi is a rosewood board.
     
  8. Lwilliams

    Lwilliams Senior Member

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    Were the banjo tuners an "easy" install over the mini Grovers?
     

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