NGD: 2016 Aged TH "Like a JP"

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  1. Marshallow

    Marshallow Senior Member

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    What's nicer than a JPP? A True Historic one. I got to try a few of these in Tokyo last weekend and they were all quite different. The "Orange Sunset Fade" finish can be delivered in a fairly dark orange or closer to the original JP#1 run. The slim neck profile vary as well from uncomfortably flat to a more subtle rounded diet-59. And then there's the interaction of the coil-splits with the pickups which is hit or miss. The best-looking guitar had a fairly dark tone, very little honk in the middle and the coil-split did little. Another guitar looked the part but just sounded thin. And then this one which had the most subtle flametop but the most accurate color (as demanded by the Gibson specialist of Kurosawa when he hand-picked the top) and the tone is spot-on in full humbucker mode or splitted, on one pickup or in the middle position with volumes at different levels. So, as my hopefully last Historic purchase ever, I had to go for it.

    So the specs are:
    Orange Sunset Fade
    R8 body
    1960 V2 neck profile (surprisingly not that thin)
    Heavy Aged to accurately replicate the original JPP run
    Aged case (which I find a bit disgusting tbh)
    Coil-split for both Custombuckers on the tone pots
    Gold Grovers
    4kg
    All True Historic appointments

    Now the kicker is that after dropping such a vast sum of ¥, I discretely got treated to handling a gorgeous colorful 59 burst. Only in Tokyo can one have such a hell of a day, right?

    Just a note about shipping out of Japan. I preferred not to take the guitar on the plane so the shop helped me ship it to myself under my name using my hotel's address to avoid any CITES issue. It worked out well. Only downside is the guitar was a bit underprotected in the case. All came ok except a bit of paint chipped off around the lower strap button which thankfully didn't sink in. Phew...

    I do hope that this will be my #1 or co-#1 since I can hardly imagine any guitar surpassing my Murphy Joe Perry. We'll see...

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  2. DADGAD

    DADGAD Senior Member

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    I've seen these on digimart for a long time now and have lusted over one. I have always wondered how the neck was shaped compared to the JPP run. Great guitar! I will try to get one in the future . I would love to go guitar shopping in Japan. You pretty much have to make a week of it and bring a bankroll otherwise it's torturous window shopping.lol. Nice doubleneck behind it too! How was the burst?! Please tell.
     
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  3. Marshallow

    Marshallow Senior Member

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    If you get to go to Tokyo, give this one a ride:
    https://www.digimart.net/cat01/shop77/DS04047382/
    Note, you'll have to ride the Chûo line West for half-an-hour to get to the mall where the shop is. It is absolutely gorgeous but the neck didn't feel right to ME, it's flattish which makes it feel wider somehow. I don't know if it was their amp or the guitar but it sounded a bit dark. I'd have to hear it on a Marshall really. But it looked like a million bucks.

    I didn't get to plug in the burst, the shop was a bit busy with youngsters which made the staff nervous. It's the picture I posted in the vintage section today. The top is really glassy, a hard thing to replicate. To be honest I don't lust after things I can't afford so it was no big deal.
     
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  4. bossaddict

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    Gorgeous! Congrats!

    Right......
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  5. Bobby Mahogany

    Bobby Mahogany Senior Member

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    Wow!

    Is this the COA that came with it?

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  6. Tim Plains

    Tim Plains Senior Member

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    Very cool. :cheers:

    What does 58 body mean? Slightly heavier?
     
  7. Marshallow

    Marshallow Senior Member

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    Nah, by that I mean the maple top not as flamey as a 59. But you're right, they might also keep the lighter mahogany for the 59s. As long as it's not over 4kg overall, which seems to be the magic weight, then I'm ok.
     
  8. Marshallow

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    I've just played it for three hours straight and loved it. All the sounds on tap are addictive. Some pics in artificial light:
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  9. Pappy58

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    I believe this tidbit goes back to this guitars history. Joe Walsh had a 58 and a 60. He didn't like the fat neck on the 58 and had it shaved to more of a 60 profile, but when he got it back it was still #2. Page made him an offer for it. So it was a 58 originally, hence the "58 body" in the spec?

    To the OP: Nice score! Luv it!
     
  10. DADGAD

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    I believe the '58 in the spec is due to a contractual issue with Page so Gibson can't sell "Page spec" '59's. It would sabotage the integrity and marketing of the Page run. By calling it a "'58" they can skirt the issue legally and offer a slim neck on it.

    Just like Gibby did with the unsold Felder run. Put a stinger on it and a '58 serial and resell. Same guitar.
     
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  11. jamman

    jamman Premium Member

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    HNGD , Looks nice .... I got lost about the shipping part . My understanding is ,,if it's going out of a Country and back to the USA(IIRC either way) 2 Documents (CITES)would be needed . 1 for Japan and 1 for the USA . has nothing to do with Where the delivery location is inside the USA ... :hmm: I think you got lucky .. But it's all good as you got the guitar with no issue . I personally wouldn't like any Dealer to screw that up(that's really playing craps with your $$$ and guitar) ...Should have been done correctly and more so at those prices .... Enjoy . Great paint on yours :applause:

    Some of us (I do , my favorite type of Gibson neck carve) like the flat neck style Gibson did in those days It's a personal choice , but Gibson Historically made those . Agree feels wider , but for some , it allows your hand to get it better.

    About the Walsh "tidbit". IIRC, Joe found the guitar like it was , =already shaved ..and bought it . He didn't have the work done .. The rest I don't recall off hand . I'll remember more after some more Coffee :lol:
     
  12. Marshallow

    Marshallow Senior Member

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    I actually live in Hong Kong. Never had a problem with Customs here. They're more interested in imports of endangered wildlife species and blow. Guitars are a safer addiction.
     
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    Safer in that you don't spend ALL the $$$$ :laugh2: you can or have ???? :eek2:

    Good you live in Japan , You guys get some fantastic looking guitars from Gibson . Good I don't , since I'd have even more then I already do .:hyper:
    That's the next BIG issue I'll be having . Taking a gaggle of guitars to Brazil .... :wow:
     
  14. Wizard of Ozz

    Wizard of Ozz Senior Member

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    Exquisite.
     
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    Very organic looking and i love those lingering birdseye
     
  16. Marshallow

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    Here's the guitar in action with a fun patch I just created in the ToneStack app.

     
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    Truly, the age of amp modelling has arrived :)

    Money saved on the Marshall stack can now be spent on the rather tasty JP-alike LP instead...
     
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    This Lester has loads of character. :wow: :wow: :thumb: :applause:

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  19. Nippon

    Nippon Insert Kanji here... Premium Member

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    You were lucky to buy a nice guitar from the worst dealer (so called Gibson specialist full of shit) in Tokyo.

    Very nice.
     
  20. Marshallow

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    Yeah, I had never bought anything at the Ochanomizu branch but they've always let me try any guitar I want. The staff was very accommodating so no complain.
    NicoNico was the only painful purchase experience a few years ago, asking me to pay cash for a CC#1. I hope the taxman tears them a new one someday.
     

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